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Sesshomaru (32 posts)
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13 years ago (2010-12-08)
Seems it is worthless here to post even a single time. People are intrested here to share their thoughts world widely without caring that there are even greater fools here who are going to take those concepts seriously, just to show a little supremacy and gain a lame respect people are doing their best to put up more and more attractive concepts. It is ridiculous and pathetic that people who don't even know about the wing (s) of humans and angels they are talking of even bigger things.
Rashidah (guest)
 
13 years ago (2010-12-07)
Since that was your last rude post on this page let me recommend you take prozac, xanax or xysperia.

Take your pick 😉
RookDygin (5 stories) (324 posts)
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13 years ago (2010-12-07)
bbdeathspark,

"And also, None of you played a part in what I said. If either one of you said I would die in 3 years, do you think I would believe it?"

Either one of US?

Let me quote you 'once again'

"The closer to death the more of an angel I become. It's like a clock to my life, and I'm at 50% now."

"Half dead is SUCH a negative way to put it. How about half human. And the closer to death, the less human. I can tell by the rate, at the very least I have 3 years... Wow. What a young age to die if I'm accurate."

It was You! YOU! And only YOU! That mentioned anything about dieing!

You have proved my point..."You enjoy the attention that outlandish statments or actions bring you..."you are just a young kid on an attention high..."

Even earlier than those quotes I said...

"Another thing I find interesting is how people on here pick and choose the parts of posts they want to answer... I guess this is due to only wanting to deal with things that fit their own version of things... Anything outside their 'truth' is just not to be dealt with?"

Again, you have done just that... You have used a dismissed my comments in a blanket sort of way, put YOUR COMMENTS on others and walk away...

Anybody that uses 'life and death' to try and 'scare' others into believing them is just a...I'll take Martian's advice and remain CIVIL...

For the record I never, NEVER said I did an Astral Projection...

"I guess you fell for Tiron's shield..."

So you admit I was in the right place... Again with your own words your catch yourself out...

I'm done, over it... I have no more to say on this... I hope you learn from all of this, but know this... If I see any of my 'ideas' being passed for yours I'll raise the BS FLAG so fast it will make your head spin.

Respectfully,

Rook
DCinAZ (guest)
+2
13 years ago (2010-12-07)
Anyone reading through this forum in the future will hopefully pay attention to the words of whitebuffalo, RookDygin and Martin. In our time here on earth, which is short, we spend an even smaller amount of that short time being kids. So many adults have wondered how different it would be if they could relive those years knowing what they know now. Not me, as far as I'm concerned it was hard enough being that age when I first lived it, if I had to do it again with the knowledge I possess now it would be worse. I would still be living under my parents AND societies rules for someone my age, plus the arguements I would pose to others my age would most likely set me further apart from them than I am now and I'd probably get in more fist fights than I did the first time around. What I'm getting at here is simple, we all start our lives as mere babes and our experiences and choices shape who we are as we grow. In my opinion, free will is the greatest gift we're given. And when it's all over and we end this chapter of our physical Being one thing I know I'll be thankful for is the 'Journey'. Nothing can beat that in my book. Thanks for the opportunity to express my thoughts, Deane ❀
bbdeathspark (4 stories) (617 posts)
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13 years ago (2010-12-07)
As this is my last post on this story, moving on to my next, I'll just correct your description and say something.

You have Dark Hair. Eye Color: Brown, but they will range from a deep brown to light brown (changing like hazel eyes do, but yours remaining a shade of brown.)

The music / clothing image is that of the 'Hard Edged' / Metal sounding Rock Bands.

Your computer was in your room, it was for 2 years and it has been because of this that you have 'discovered yourself'... You were very sheltered by your Parents before then. You believe in God, but not in the same way your Parents 'taught you'.

I didn't even FEEL your astral presence. I was probably asleep. Next time, do it when I'm awake, I guess you fell for Tiron's shield, except for some things I have no idea where you got.

And also, None of you played a part in what I said. If either one of you said I would die in 3 years, do you think I would believe it?
Martin (129 posts) mod
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13 years ago (2010-12-07)
If you don't mind I'd like to share my opinion. I think some people need to get back to earth a little bit, especially the younger ones who have very little experience in this world and are prone to wild fantasies.

Wings have been added to angels over time in religious art to represent their divine nature. It's simply an artistic expression, like the halo for saints, that has become tradition. It's like if people were arguing over vampires sparkling or not under the sun. It's simply an artistic choice in the Twilight novels, that may or may not be picked up by tradition in the future. It has nothing to do, for example, with astral entities that may have vampiric attributes. Astral entities do not require wings to move around, but they may show themselves with wings if it comforts the perceiver in their views during a traumatic moment, such as death. Wings are what they are because of gaseous physics in this physical world. They would be useless in another non-physical environment.

That being said, we all came from different places or realms in the universe before choosing to incarnate in this physical life as humans. Our origins are irrelevant at this point, whether you're from galaxy XYZ or vibrational plane 123, being human for the time being is what counts, no need to obsess over it, as much as there is no need to obsess over past lives, they're done, it's over, what matters is now and the difference you can make to improve the present and help people around you.

Just because you are interested in the paranormal doesn't mean you should throw critical thinking out of the window and believe whatever charismatic, and possibly ill intentioned, person tells you. Kids, stay in school and listen to your elders. You may rebel (in fact, you will) when you're a little older 😉
Sesshomaru (32 posts)
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13 years ago (2010-12-07)
bbdeathspark, it seems that the angelic part of your soul have become much more stronger that is why such thoughts are coming into your mind. You have to control your angelic energy and thoughts as well. And never forget that powers of demons and angels are limited but a human soul contains both parts (angel and demon) and great potentials (emotions, will power). This is what we call "LIFE", the significance of God. You are going to get nothing after losing this life but you can do much more things if you live your life nicly. Just think...
Sesshomaru (32 posts)
+1
13 years ago (2010-12-07)
To acbgirl5051: I am not posting here to tease bbdeathspark but I am posting to eliminate some false concepts from his mind. Via. Who told you or how do you know that "SOME ANGELS DON'T HAVE WINGS" Infact wings are one of the most important characteristics of divine species.
RookDygin (5 stories) (324 posts)
+3
13 years ago (2010-12-07)
Martin,

Due to the nature of some things recently stated by bbdeathsparks the beginging of this is going to be very harsh and more than likely seem 'less than civil' but if what I'm reading is 'true' then I WILL NOT APOLIGIZE, and I hope you let my statment stand.

To any and all who have 'supported' the OP I'd like to CONGRADULATE you on bringing him to the point where he has made the following statements:

"I am a fallen angel, as I was an angel ebfore, but then I chose to incarnate into a human. Now I only retain half of being an angel, which means I'm a fallen angel. The closer to death the more of an angel I become. It's like a clock to my life, and I'm at 50% now."

"Half dead is SUCH a negative way to put it. How about half human. And the closer to death, the less human. I can tell by the rate, at the very least I have 3 years... Wow. What a young age to die if I'm accurate."

You have hleped convince a 13 year old that his life is going to end in 3 years. WAY TO GO! NOW DO HIM A FAVOR AND STEP OFF! BACK AWAY AND LEAVE WELL ENOUGH ALONE!

Brandon,

I hope what I've quoted is not really how you feel. If it is then you need to take a really deep breath and THINK about what you are saying and what you think you are being told.

You asked me to 'come play' you wanted me to Astral Project... I some respects you have won the Kewpie Doll... For I did 'Take A look' after reading this latest 'turn of events... Please, Please be honest and let me know if I'm on the 'mark'.

Validation Points:

You have Dark Hair, a bit longer than shoulder length. Eye Color: Brown, but they will range from a deep brown to light brown (changing like hazel eyes do, but yours remaining a shade of brown.)

There are many posters on your walls and the casual observer would think they are of 'death metal' band's and they would be wrong...

When you go to school, the mall... Or just outside your home people think your a goth... But your not.

The music / clothing image is that of the 'Hard Edged' / Metal sounding Christian Rock Bands.

Your computer is in your room, has been for 1.5 / 2 years and it has been becasue of this that you have 'descovered yourself' and this music... You were very sheltered by your Parents before then. You believe in God, but not in the same way your Parents 'taught you'.

If I'm out in left field, I'm sorry...

You enjoy the attention that outlandish statments or actions bring you... And that brings me to this point...

Either you are just a young kid on an attention high... Or you are in complete earnest and I ask you to really think about what I'm going to say. (Some of it I have already stated... And I'll quote myself...)

"In our 'pre-mortal' life we are spirits and it is here that we choose to take on a mortal shell. When that happens we pass through 'the veil' between the spirit and the physical world. In other words, we are born. Being babies we are 'close to the veil' and can see and interact with the spirit realm. As we grow older we grow farther away from this veil and it becomes harder to see or interact with the spirit world. 'Gifted' people somehow retain the ability to see/interact with the spirit world and some even choose to develop these 'gifts'. What these 'gifts' really are is the individual 'remembering' how things were on the spiritual side of the 'veil.'

Bbdeathsparks, as I wrote this it 'smacked me in the face' this 'feeling' you have, this 'knowledge' that you 'are' an Angel... Perhaps this is a memory 'retained' by you from the 'other side'. It doesn't mean you have 'powers' it simply means you 'remember' things from before crossing the veil.

In the case of 'past lives' the 'spirit' in question has chosen to return more than once..."

I'll go into more detail... Perhaps that will help some.

I believe in 3 Kingdoms in the Spiritual / Mortal Realms (and my veiw differs from my Church... Just a wee bit... I offer this as close to a none religious way as I can.)

1) Celestial Kingdom: In our Pre-Mortal life this is where our spirits come from. Call them our higher selves, Angels/Demons, Entities (good/bad)...whatever you will all come from this realm. In the case of Demons/ Bad Enities, well they were a group who wanted to experience the flesh, but didn't want to 'forget' where they came from... Good Entities/ Angel's wanted to set aside their knowledge, become flesh and use free will to live in the flesh... Inorder that they may learn and grow to return to the Celestial Kingdom. The ones who did not want this were cast away from the others and are forever seperated... For the Bad Entities / Demon's can nevr take on flesh, though they attack/tempt and even possess mortals for a short period of time...

Telestial Kingdom: the Spirit realm... This is where ghosts come from... If an entity has lead a perfect life, learned all it's leasons it earns it's way back into the Celestial Kingdom. If not it ends up here, to be taught to by Celestial Beings, or to return to a mortal body and learn some more... Some spirits that end up here do not understand what is happening to them so they 'reach out' and try to interact with the living... But cannot quite cross the veil between the 'Kingdoms'. That is why we don't quite see them/hear them or only just bearly catch them out of the corner of our eye... (Hope that makes sense)

Terrestrial Kingdom: This is Earth... Or us here on Earth. Our bodies recieve a 'soul' (spirit) from the Celestial Kingdom, it has come to learn through physical experience and by exersicing free will may return to the Celestial Kingdom. The 'Bad Entities' try and interfere with us while we are in this Kingdom because they have been 'cut off' from taking on a 'mortal shell'.

Each Kingdom is Seperated from the other by a 'veil' (for lack of a better term) and when an Entity passes from the Celestial Kingdom to the Terrestrial Kingdom it's memories of the Celestial are erased... If a spirit does not quite learn all it need to return to the Celestial it goes to the Telestial Kingdom... From here one may recieve a minimum amout of instruction from the Celestial Kingdom or may return to the Terrestrial Kingdom. (reincarnation at it's best) Some of the Celestial beings come into the Terrestrial Kingdom more than once...it's when this happens that 'psychic powers' and such come into play... As the Spirit remembers more from the Celestial Kingdom...

I've rambled on long enough... Feel free to ask about anything, ANYTHING, I have said.

For the Record bbdeathsparks

50% + 13 = 26 NOT 16... Please think about what you have said... What you have 'been told' and what I have just put down in this LONG Narrative...

Respectfully,

Rook
bbdeathspark (4 stories) (617 posts)
 
13 years ago (2010-12-06)
Naw, I don't think so. I asked Markus and he said he's been called many names but not that. So, no, sorry to disappoint you. 😜 😆
whitebuffalo (guest)
+1
13 years ago (2010-12-06)
http://www.reviewstream.com/reviews/?p=64228

But I can not help but ask: You do not mean Father Markus, do you?
bbdeathspark (4 stories) (617 posts)
 
13 years ago (2010-12-06)
I don't mean Bible Terms. I mean LITERAL terms. That's what Markus and the others describe me as. "An angel who has run from his job for his emotions/ for a specific reason and has become a species less pure than an angel" is what Rafael said. Of course, if you want to speak bible terms, then we couldn't talk about past lives could we?
whitebuffalo (guest)
+1
13 years ago (2010-12-06)
http://www.christcenteredmall.com/teachings/angels_6.htm
Http://carm.org/fallen-angels
Http://www.steliart.com/angelology_fallen_the_sin.html

Please do not merely accept these things people are telling you. Do your research. Look into things. Please do not JUST believe.
Thank you.
bbdeathspark (4 stories) (617 posts)
 
13 years ago (2010-12-06)
Half dead is SUCH a negative way to put it. How about half human. And the closer to death, the less human. I can tell by the rate, at the very least I have 3 years... Wow. What a young age to die if I'm accurate.

And I'm trying to find out but not even Michael will tell me, much less Markus. *sigh*
acbgirl5051 (4 posts)
 
13 years ago (2010-12-06)
I don't think you should be half dead Brandon. You should becoming more awake as your powers get stronger. You think? What was your fallen angelic name?
bbdeathspark (4 stories) (617 posts)
 
13 years ago (2010-12-06)
Thanks for all the info/feedback. I now found out what I am.
I am a fallen angel, as I was an angel ebfore, but then I chose to incarnate into a human. Now I only retain half of being an angel, which means I'm a fallen angel. The closer to death the more of an angel I become. It's like a clock to my life, and I'm at 50% now. I appreicate your feedback. And Markus does not want me todisclose what my wings can do, though I can tell you, It helps me with sealing.[Thats not iut]
acbgirl5051 (4 posts)
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13 years ago (2010-12-06)
Now you guys need to leave him alone... If you have nothing nice to say or encouraging you should leave him alone. Not all angels have wings.
Sesshomaru (32 posts)
 
13 years ago (2010-12-06)
You have said that you know about both of your wings, that's nice! Now tell me what they (your both wings) are for?
bbdeathspark (4 stories) (617 posts)
-1
13 years ago (2010-12-06)
Yes, infact I do know what both my wings are for, also I know why Markus was the only one to tell me anything. Interesting actually.
lilylove (3 stories) (362 posts)
 
13 years ago (2010-12-05)
I totally agree with what you just said and with almost everyone else comments but still there to much debate going on like I said earlier it time that we give this a rest and move on already.
Sesshomaru (32 posts)
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13 years ago (2010-12-05)
I want to say very short and clear thing, "IF YOU ARE AN ANGEL THEN YOU MUST REMEMBER THE USE OF YOUR WINGS AND YOU MUST BE HAVING TWO WINGS". If this condition is not satisfied then there is no chance that you are an angel and it might be happen that your angelic part of the soul have become very much strong and that is why you are feeling like you are an angel!
Mel33 (guest)
+1
13 years ago (2010-12-05)
Brandon,
I don't have a problem with possibly accepting that you could be a reincarnated angel. I believe in reincarnation, myself. I've had dreams of a couple of my own past lives.
My primary concern is for your well-being.
Are you familiar with chaos theory/the butterfly effect? And no I'm not talking about chaos magick or the movie. I'm referring to quantum physics. If not familiarize yourself with it.
Manipulating energy works in much the same way. We are limited in what we can do, due to opposing forces.
Anyway, if you haven't already researched quantum physics I think you will find it fascinating. Perhaps, maybe even one day you could be a scientist making great advancements in this field.
lilylove (3 stories) (362 posts)
 
13 years ago (2010-12-05)
ok this conversation is becoming something else seriously every should just chill.
Martin (129 posts) mod
+2
13 years ago (2010-12-05)
I cleaned this thread a little bit, let's stay civil here people.
acbgirl5051 (4 posts)
+1
13 years ago (2010-12-05)
Brandon, please don't let anyone bring you down in who you are. People just don't understand who you are. The hardest thing I have learned from the Arch's is to not think about the past in who I was but who I am now. What I can do with my life now and help others around me, spiritually or in love and kindness. Don't like jerks who don't understand bring you done. Even Christians will make fun of you but they are in error. You should know who you are. An angel is a messenger, and one who protects the people. Sometimes by being an angel others will see it by your actions.:)
acbgirl5051 (4 posts)
+1
13 years ago (2010-12-05)
Hello,
I was an angel in a previous life, and yes your guardian will protect you from others knowing your an reincarnate. But I want you to advise you this is for your own good and protection in your weak stages in life for people not to know who you are. But being a reincarnate or just being a powerful human being will also attract lying spirits to keep you from your true angelic potential. I had fallen angels, demons, and angels of Jehovah come to me. Most angels don't want to be known until people are ready to receive the message. Angels are protects, but generally messengers. But, depending on who you had served as an Angel. If you serve serve Jehovah like Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, and Uriel (he does pronounce his name differently from what the catholics do.) They do have a master and God and they are connected to him. I have worked and meet with all of them. If its the true arch will give you energy and not drag you down and teach you things. This will teach you about the Holy Spirit. Gabriel is a great teacher. He has taught me so much and so has Michael. They will teach you the secret of the universe when you are ready and why they were created and how.
bbdeathspark (4 stories) (617 posts)
+2
13 years ago (2010-12-05)
*Sigh* This is interesting to watch but...really? Who cares if he's trolling left right and center, just ignore him. I mean seriously, a lot of you were blamming me for being 13 years old and inexperienced but looky here, Your feeding the troll more troll flakes.
moonshine (123 posts)
 
13 years ago (2010-12-05)
Sparky, I'm sorry this happened. And yes, I do believe you can handle this yourself.

Twinkles: Actually, I'm from Ohio, but I've lived in Nevada for nearly 20 years. Why would people from the same state have the same writing styles? Guess your "powers" are a little off today, huh?
Rashidah (guest)
+1
13 years ago (2010-12-05)
Darkstar/zen

That is how you repay people after they tried to help you and defend you from the ghost story site?

They have been a lot nicer to you than I was because I HAVE NO PATIENCE WITH KIDS.

You owe them an apology. Especially to Rook. Your statements are very tasteless.

You should be ashamed. Have some respect for these elders. You may need them some day. I know I will because something big is coming my way soon and I will need all the advice and help I can get. That is why I appreciate ALL of them for taking their time off from their busy schedule to come on this site to help and share their wisdom with psychics like us.

Seriously, as I told you from the sister site, you can stop it now...really.

And do not start any trouble with me now because I am stressed from classes, and I am in no mood to tango.

Yours respectfully,
Rashidah
bbdeathspark (4 stories) (617 posts)
 
13 years ago (2010-12-05)
Dark I know what your trying to do but is it really necessary? I can handle this by myself, though I appreciate the help.
whitebuffalo (guest)
+2
13 years ago (2010-12-05)
Alright. Enough. Let us stop this now. Enough is enough.
May I remind you all to take another look at the rules and regulations for posting on this site...
Let us watch the tones, Folks.
bbdeathspark (4 stories) (617 posts)
+2
13 years ago (2010-12-05)
o_o Is it just me or are psychics easy to start a fight with... I mean seriously, Look at this. Why can't we all walk away and ignore what Dark is saying instead of answering back? AND QUIT THE SARCASM DC. IT DOESN'T HELP ANYONE.
Mel33 (guest)
+1
13 years ago (2010-12-05)
Rilan,
Years ago I probably would have agreed with you. However, after gaining more life experience I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. Unless, a child is being abused or neglected by their parents then they should ultimately make the decisions in their lives until they are mature enough to do so on their own.
Most 13yo's I know are very impressionable and only listen to what they want to hear. And there are some bad people out there that will tell them what they want to hear for their own agenda.
I'm sincerely sorry that your parents weren't more understanding. That's something that we all come across in our lives with various people in different situations.
Please, don't take this the wrong way. I'm not trying to belittle your feelings. I am trying to speak rationally to you.

And I'm sure you weren't referring to me as being rude because I don't believe that I have made one rude comment.
RookDygin (5 stories) (324 posts)
 
13 years ago (2010-12-05)
Twinkles Like Black Light...er, uh I mean Dark Star,

I'm surprised, I thought you were one of his supporters, and here you go saying he'll out grow it?

I find that very interesting indeed.

Another thing I find interesting is how people on here pick and choose the parts of posts they want to answer... I guess this is due to only wanting to deal with things that fit their own version of things... Anything outside their 'truth' is just not to be dealt with?

Just asking?

Respectfully,

Rook
DCinAZ (guest)
-1
13 years ago (2010-12-05)
Get used to it Darkstar, we're here to stay. Not just here but the Spiritual site and YGS. Oh yeah, we're all over it now. 😊
Rilan (1 stories) (103 posts)
 
13 years ago (2010-12-05)
I read every one of the comments that was up as of yesterday.

All I'm saying is, lots of people were presenting their opinions about his experience in a very rude way, and that is not nice. They could say that there are other explanations for it in a more polite and supportive way. Its okay if you don't think he is literally an angel, but please be considerate and respect his ability to judge whether or not he really is.

What I mean about the spirit that deceived me is that he told me he was my spirit guide. Sparky's guide is probably his actual spirit guide. In that case, he would probably be honest.

I did not mean any offense to adults. Its just that an overwhelming majority--every adult I know--meets my definition. Its wonderful that you are different. I will be a grownup someday and I will still be open to the otherworld. But often, spirits choose kids for special things.

Mel33, as I said, its his decision whether or not to trust his parents, but if they are anything like my parents, I would be afraid for him. I don't have a single friend who has trustworthy parents. To us, parents are oppressors--at least all the ones we know. I know that there are better parents in the world somewhere, but it doesn't sound like Sparky's parents would take his paranormal involvement very well. They may be responsible for his well-being, but parents often end up doing exactly the opposite to their children by trying to force their ideas on them; Emotionally destroying them and traumatizing them forever and making them bitter and angry and distrustful.

And DCinAZ, I did not do a copy and paste of anything. I didn't see those comments on other stories...
RookDygin (5 stories) (324 posts)
+3
13 years ago (2010-12-05)
bbdeathspark,

Pardon me, I need to address something that another poster has said...

Rilan,

I have been going over the comments and your rather long one caught my attention...

So I have a few questions (statements) I wish to ask (make to you) of you...I'll start with quotes from your post, followed by my question or statment...

"What is wrong with all of you, making fun of him because of his age and his experiences and his beliefs?"

I do not believe anyone has 'made fun of' his age, nor experiences/beliefs. What everybody is trying to understand is 'why' be believes this and the replies just seem to take everyone in circles... He's says things like... 'I don't have to prove what's happened to me, it's up to you to prove it did not...' (paraphrased) It seems the OP has accepted this to the point of exclusion of any other concept or theory. That is why it seems other posters are 'picking' on him... We keep pitching and he keeps ducking.

"Unfortunately, it is true that spirit guides can lie, and often have their own agendas. A spirit lied to me and created a great big confusing mess. Just go with your gut feeling on whether or not to trust them."

How/where did you develop this concept?

Spirit's can lie, I will not argue that...

Spirit's can have their own agenda, I will not argue that...

Spirit Guides however are there to 'GUIDE' us, not to deceive us, but rather to help us 'find our path'...

'Spirit Guide: an entity that remains a dis-incarnate spirit in order to act as a guide or protector to a living incarnated human being.'

'Spirit Guide generally makes reference to one or more entities who watch, teach, heal, and help you on your physical journey into spiritual awareness.'

I offer two different definitions and ask you this...

If this is their purpose, to be our guides and protectors, then why would they lie to us? You may have met a spirit or two... And I will not 'doubt' that they may have even lied to you, but if that's the case then these Spirit's were not your 'Spirit Guide'. Unless of course you have a very different definition of 'Spirit Guide'.

"Young teens are the best people to be invovled in the supernatural world because they are open to fantastical ideas but old enough to take them seriously. Grownups would never believe in it or care about it..."

I'm 43 and I believe in the paranormal and I care about 'things' else I would not be here trying to understand and help those who have come here to post their experiences and ask for help. I have met, and talk with my Spirit Guide. I have met my Spirit Animal and it helps to strengthen me in times of need. I have a Guardian Angel, and have been blessed with knowing what 'she' looks like. So do not presume to say that 'Grown ups' wouldn't believe or care. I ask this...Where/Whatever gave you that idea?

Your 16...I'm truly sorry your parents do not trust you...it's a shame...

At 16 I had moved out of my house. I lived in a spare room at my grandmothers, had a part time job and paid rent... At 17 (legal age for a male in Texas) I had my own apartment...

So your story, while sad... Not sure how it applies...

How to put this...hummmm...

In our 'pre-mortal' life we are spirits and it is here that we choose to take on a mortal shell. When that happens we pass through 'the veil' between the spirit and the physical world. In other words, we are born. Being babies we are 'close to the veil' and can see and interact with the spirit realm. As we grow older we grow farther away from this veil and it becomes harder to see or interact with the spirit world. 'Gifted' people somehow retain the ability to see/interact with the spirit world and some even choose to develop these 'gifts'. What these 'gifts' really are is the individual 'remembering' how things were on the spiritual side of the 'veil.'

Bbdeathsparks, as I wrote this it 'smacked me in the face' this 'feeling' you have, this 'knowledge' that you 'are' an Angel... Perhaps this is a memory 'retained' by you from the 'other side'. It doesn't mean you have 'powers' it simply means you 'remember' things from before crossing the veil.

In the case of 'past lives' the 'spirit' in question has chosen to return more than once... Anyway I'm rambling...

Rilan,

No one here is trying to mess up your 'perfect world', nor even this 'close' version of it. Stop being paranoid, take some time to read some of what's being posted, you just might learn something and Knowledge Is Power.

Respectfully,

Rook
bbdeathspark (4 stories) (617 posts)
+1
13 years ago (2010-12-05)
Oh, I'm sorry for the sudden change of events but my final exams for the term are coming up and I won't be on much. Of course I'll still be on the website every once in a while but, I definitely can't continue this now. Maybe in 2 weeks time when School finishes
Mel33 (guest)
 
13 years ago (2010-12-05)
Anyway, I'm getting away from the computer screen for awhile. It's playing havoc with my eyes.
Mel33 (guest)
+2
13 years ago (2010-12-05)
DC
Gotcha. I was just thinking the other night if anyone on this site has posted anything about the dangers and warning signs of cults?
I'm assuming that's what you're referring to? Whether or not that's what you meant, it might not be a bad idea.
DCinAZ (guest)
 
13 years ago (2010-12-05)
Mel33, This 'rilan' has done a copy, paste of this same message he left here on several other stories. He's fishing for recruits, that's all.
Mel33 (guest)
+2
13 years ago (2010-12-05)
Rilan,
You can't go around comparing everyone's parents to your own. It is unfortunate that you were unable to trust your parents. I didn't have the greatest childhood, either. However, they are his parents and I'm pretty sure that you don't know them. So, in my personal opinion I don't think it's right that you would say such a thing.
I am pretty open-minded when it comes to a lot of things, but I'm also pretty old fashioned in believing that parents have the right to know what is going on their child's lives.
I know that some relationships cannot always be reconciled, but that is not always the case. I'm a big believer in talking it out. And quite frankly you should be ashamed of yourself for not encouraging him to talk to his parents and try to build some trust with them. They are the people that are responsible for his well being, you know?
DCinAZ (guest)
 
13 years ago (2010-12-05)
Aaaah Sparky, Sparky, Sparky... Will you never learn? No one cares if you think you're an Angel. Go right on ahead and play away. You do realize that once you put something out here in a public venue it will always be here waiting for anyone to find? But I'm sure you've ALWAYS known that, right? Now, I know how tiring it must be for you to put up with all of the non-believers who just won't let you alone. And I'm sure that every time you insist that no one can prove you aren't what you say you are it makes you feel like you've got the best arguement of all time and you can't lose, right? Oh my goodness, that is just so darn cute! You just stomp you're tiny little feet and scrunch your little face up! That is just so precious, (aaaw) let me pinch your chubby little cheeks. I'll tell you what, you little sugarplum, if you ever do sprout those wings, you won't forget to come back and show everybody how pretty they are, will you? We're all just as pleased as punch that you've made your decision to be a sweet little angel. Just like those little baby angels with the bow and arrows? Why I can just see it now! How adorable! And it's you kiddo, it is SO you! ❀ ❀
whitebuffalo (guest)
+2
13 years ago (2010-12-05)
It is obvious that you have your mind set and you will refuse the voice of reason. I am NOT saying that MY voice is that particular voice, I am saying that LOTS of people reached out.
You missed my entire point, and in doing so proved it.
You say "Well, obviously I'm going to be defensive, If I experience this myself, and much more which I never put in the story, I'm obviously going to believe it over people saying 'It's impossible, Angels are immortal" "Angels can't reincarnate as they were always angels before" "You in your own anime/tv world'. Yeah, I think I finished that question..."
...
I do not know how ELSE to say this, again. We ASKED you about the experiences. We WISHED to learn. YOU refused to answer. Or answered in an illogical way.
You may not have SAID it was someone else's fault. But you implied to the maximum ability.
Know this: Those who joined in to help are not going to leave the site. They will still be here to read and catch a problem, if they can help with that.
Just because someone does not believe ONE instance, just because someone asks a question does NOT mean they doubt you. It means they doubt their own knowledge of the idea. They ask as YOU have that knowledge through experience... I do not understand the seemingly NEED to keep it all in privacy. If you are seeking HELP, the one doing the helping needs the WHOLE picture, not just the pieces you choose to share, creating a "missing puzzle piece" image.
Go through just MY comments, and then your following comments. Write down the questions that you believe you answered to me truthfully. Then write down the ones you missed. You might be surprised, as you seem to think you answered EVERY question. Maybe after that you can go through the other comments by the others that you do not normally talk to, and do the same.
I will STILL be looking out. And I do not say that in a threatening manner. I am just saying. And I know the others will, too.
You can never learn the full extent of ANY talent, if you refuse to look for the "more".
Good Luck to you, Hun. Let this go. Just let it end here.
Respectfully.
MoonStryke (guest)
 
13 years ago (2010-12-05)
One thing in one of your comments stands out to me. You say that you want to "will" people and "implant thoughts."
Why?
It sounds very much like you wish to control other people. That is a very karmically irresponsible wish. It is just wrong to interfere with other poeples' free will.
You also seem unsure of some things yourself, by your own amission. Do you spend much time in meditation, seeking your center? Quiet yourself. Sit calmly, let all the negativity flow out of your soul, and just be. Cleanse your soul and sub-conscious. You appear to have a great deal of turmoil, about your belief in your abilities, and how other people perceive your abilities. That turmoil isn't going to go away by trying to convince a bunch of internet strangers. To get rid of that turmoil, you will need to quiet your spirit, search your emotions, and understand yourself. Understanding yourself is the most important thing you could accomplish.
bbdeathspark (4 stories) (617 posts)
 
13 years ago (2010-12-05)
*Yawn* So much long comments that I have to reply to...*sigh* 😹.

First, I have to point something out. In your LAST comment TO me concerning this, you said quite clearly you did not KNOW OperationX. In the comments making up the response to me, you say that OperationX is prone to drunken comments.
Sounds like you know "him".

Actually, I just added him on MSN yesterday, and we were talking for a little bit, then he left. When he came back he was full on DRUNK.

I said that your deceptions about OTHER things makes it rather difficult to believe you.

Deception about what "Other Things"? My past life being AE? Knowing things as a 13 year old that pretty much few other people know? Please do tell me.

Any person who asked you a question, you flew to the defensive with.
No offence, Hun, but I have children AND Grandchildren. I do the same to them. When someone comes to you five different times, and tries different tactics each and every time to GET you to open up~ you shoot them down.

Well, obviously I'm going to be defensive, If I experience this myself, and much more which I never put in the story, I'm obviously going to believe it over people saying "It's impossible, Angels are immortal" "Angels can't reincarnate as they were always angels before" "You in your own anime/tv world". Yeah, I think I finished that question... 😐

What you SAY when people confront you is that WE are at fault. That WE have misread.
Tell me, Hun. HOW can that many people misread something in exactly the same way, if that was not the intent?

I've never said anyone was wrong/right [I think] All I was simply saying is this: "This has happened to me, but with much more details and explanation. Just by saying it's impossible won't change my mind, or saying it's unlikely, as things I thought I knew impossible are happening right now."

You claim that you do not treat people as lesser knowledgeable persons as you claim to be. And yet, ALL your responses flip to the "You can not possibly understand as you have never". Honestly, HOW would YOU, or anyone else on this forum KNOW what anyone has experienced? Has anyone EVER given the newbies a chance, as THEY have tried to the others on this site? No. YOU have "shut down" ALL the help that was trying to get through to you.

If you read, you would see I've never stated that they never had the experience or anything. I took their questions and answered them truthfully. And to be honest, I didn't even notice some people new on the site.

So...keep pushing. One day, when you back yourself up into that door, you are going to need someone to answer that question for you: "Shall I open the door, or look for a window?" And who will be left to answer that for you? I REALLY hope it is a truly experienced, and NOT pretentious person.
Your very LIFE is so much more important than ANY facade.

I will wait for that day then. I would be really glad to see it too.
Thank you for your time and knowledge, and I appreciate it.
whitebuffalo (guest)
+4
13 years ago (2010-12-05)
By the way: Thank you for proving MY point in this. You "prove" in private, but there SHOULD be no need for it, IF the Talent is true.
Yet your e-mail deception keeps supposed abilities NEEDING to be proved.
As I said to you before, I will NOT prove myself to ANYone. If it is TRUTH, it will be seen in action. YOU should not EVER have to "prove", or provide "proof". NO ONE truly asked for it, until YOU claimed you could provide it.
whitebuffalo (guest)
+4
13 years ago (2010-12-05)
Sparky? You are not reading what I am writing.
First, I have to point something out. In your LAST comment TO me concerning this, you said quite clearly you did not KNOW OperationX. In the comments making up the response to me, you say that OperationX is prone to drunken comments.
Sounds like you know "him".
I never said that THIS experience was not true.
I said that your deceptions about OTHER things makes it rather difficult to believe you.
I am not going to keep this conversation going, just to argue. I will say it again, I never asked you to prove any powers, not once.
If you are being honest when you write "...thing is, I'm STILL not so sure myself...that's why I want valid proof", then you have rejected just about everyone who came to help, mentor, or guide.
Any person who asked you a question, you flew to the defensive with.
No offence, Hun, but I have children AND Grandchildren. I do the same to them. When someone comes to you five different times, and tries different tactics each and every time to GET you to open up~ you shoot them down.
This was NEVER a case of "Aww, Poor Little Young thing does not know what is going on", so get THAT out of your head. There are SOME who HAVE to question to get the whole picture. But that has been explained numerous times only for you to come back (or another one of these young un's who act like this is some super secret society) and slide straight into "If you do not have the ability, you can not possibly understand".
Frankly, I am tired of trying to force the help that you want to act like you are here for, just as soon as someone clearly shows you that the jig is up.
What you SAY when people confront you is that WE are at fault. That WE have misread.
Tell me, Hun. HOW can that many people misread something in exactly the same way, if that was not the intent?
You claim that you do not treat people as lesser knowledgeable persons as you claim to be. And yet, ALL your responses flip to the "You can not possibly understand as you have never". Honestly, HOW would YOU, or anyone else on this forum KNOW what anyone has experienced? Has anyone EVER given the newbies a chance, as THEY have tried to the others on this site? No. YOU have "shut down" ALL the help that was trying to get through to you.
I have exhausted myself, running circles TRYING to help, just to be pushed away.
So...keep pushing. One day, when you back yourself up into that door, you are going to need someone to answer that question for you: "Shall I open the door, or look for a window?" And who will be left to answer that for you? I REALLY hope it is a truly experienced, and NOT pretentious person.
Your very LIFE is so much more important than ANY facade.
In Honor.
Rilan (1 stories) (103 posts)
-3
13 years ago (2010-12-05)
Okay, first, I was given critical secrets of the astral world when I was 13. Being 13 does not make you any less worthy. Young teens are the best people to be invovled in the supernatural world because they are open to fantastical ideas but old enough to take them seriously. Grownups would never believe in it or care about it, and little kids would think it was all a game. I'm pretty sure I'm not entirely human either, but I wouldn't call myself an angel. I don't know what I am...

What is wrong with all of you, making fun of him because of his age and his experiences and his beliefs? How could you? How dare you? That is so wrong and insensitive, it just makes me sick! You have not experienced the thing he has experienced and therefore have no idea. This site is the one place people can speak freely, but people like you ruin it for them and expose them to the same harassment they would face if they talked about their experiences to the rest of the hard-headed world which seems to think there is only one plain old physical reality!

Unfortunately, it is true that spirit guides can lie, and often have their own agendas. A spirit lied to me and created a great big confusing mess. Just go with your gut feeling on whether or not to trust them.

Bbdeathspark, I totally understand about your parents. Mine cut me off from all help and learning. It was HORRIBLE. I was 13 and 14 when it happened, and it pretty much ruined my life. I would be deppressed for days at a time, wanting nothing support. They would tell me that something was wrong with me, and that I was doing evil, and that I was being rediculous and stupid and insane. I would secretly read AnneV's astral projection website and the stories from this site, but I was too afraid to post anything or email Anne because of my parents, so I would lay on the floor crying and crying and trying to talk to her and others telepathically. But I couldn't get my thoughts in order, and I kept doubting myself because of what my parents were saying, and I just felt so horrible, so I don't think I was successful. I have not been able to trust them since. I don't understand why anyone thinks its okay to oppress people about their beliefs like that. I learned not to say anything about what I saw or felt or believed in, and soon, they forgot and now they don't watch me so closely. I'm 16 now, and my goal in life is to create one place in the world where people can go and believe freely, never being diagnosed with "disorders" or forced into a mental hospital, or told that the things they are seeing and thinking are wrong just because no one else sees or thinks them. It would be a place where our reality touches other realities--the most magical place on earth. Right now, this site is the closest thing to that psychic sanctuary, but a couple people are RUINING IT!

I would suggest not telling your parents, but if you trust them, that's your decision. I'm just traumatized after what happened to me. I still have nightmares about it and panic sometimes, thinking its going to start again.

Keep updating us on your angelhood. I think that the fact you are an angel is totally awesome, and I believe in you!
RookDygin (5 stories) (324 posts)
 
13 years ago (2010-12-05)
bbdeathspark,

It worries me that you have chosen to accept this 'idea' without proof and now your 'looking' for proof to the contrary.

That's a bit backwards isn't it... Except the 'unknown' and then ask for it to be proven as other than truth?

Respectfully,

Rook
OperatorX (11 posts)
 
13 years ago (2010-12-05)
Ouroboros- Would you happen to be a member of the Unfiction boards, playing EMH? Just curious, because you sounded familiar. 😉
Ouroboros (1 stories) (29 posts)
+1
13 years ago (2010-12-04)
"And what proof do you want?"

You said that your believers who e-mailed you were provided proof. Could you do the same for the non-believers? I can't think of a reason why not.
DCinAZ (guest)
+1
13 years ago (2010-12-04)
But you don't understand, it's not up to others to provide YOU with proof. You are the one making the claims, no one else. What were you after when you posted the story anyway?
Mel33 (guest)
+3
13 years ago (2010-12-04)
Well, Brandon I have to go take care of some chores.
Seriously, though... You should really reconsider talking with your parents about these things sooner than next year. They may actually surprise you.
bbdeathspark (4 stories) (617 posts)
-1
13 years ago (2010-12-04)
OK Sparky, don't start getting all paranoid on us now. Stay calm... Or attack it, whichever makes you feel better. So I come back to find you still have offered no real proof? Tsk,tsk,tsk. The attention you're getting is fun though, huh?

Meh, I got rid of it just awhile ago anyways. And what proof do you want? You want a picture with me having wings on my back and a halo 😐? And yes, the attention is amusing, though I grow wary of it. I just want some proof whether I am or I am not. I already had several people read me and tell me positive answers, plus some Arch Angels, now I'm waiting for proof to deny it.
DCinAZ (guest)
 
13 years ago (2010-12-04)
That's right little one, go to sleep, you've been at this far too long, you need a rest.
bbdeathspark (4 stories) (617 posts)
-1
13 years ago (2010-12-04)
What in the hell are you talking about... I'm being serious here. And now this thingy keeps coming back after I repel it, and I'm going to soon get tired.
DCinAZ (guest)
+2
13 years ago (2010-12-04)
OK Sparky, don't start getting all paranoid on us now. Stay calm... Or attack it, whichever makes you feel better. So I come back to find you still have offered no real proof? Tsk,tsk,tsk. The attention you're getting is fun though, huh?
moonshine (123 posts)
+2
13 years ago (2010-12-04)
Ask him if his name is "Rook"! 😆

Nice way to try to divert the questioner, by the way đŸ€”
Darkstar (guest)
 
13 years ago (2010-12-04)
It doesn't sound that bad, Id just let it be. If anything it might be a spirit trying to talk to you.
bbdeathspark (4 stories) (617 posts)
-1
13 years ago (2010-12-04)
Yes, I have proven it to people, but its taken a few tries for some, and then again, I'm not exactly that in control, what with a demon messing with me, and me lacking self confidence.
Mel33 (guest)
+2
13 years ago (2010-12-04)
Perhaps, I missed something. I thought that you said that you were able to prove some of your abilities to a few people from this site? May I ask what happened between then and now?

And you seriously should give your parents a little more credit then that. It sounds as though that you believe you have a destiny. If you believe in destiny then you also would have to believe that everything has a purpose. Which would mean that your parents/family are not just some random people that you were born to live with. It would mean that they are here to guide you as well.
bbdeathspark (4 stories) (617 posts)
-1
13 years ago (2010-12-04)
[Cliche again...] It just looks like a humanoid with a noticeable hat on. I see darkness around it flickering, it's like it stands out even in the dark, which is weird. I've dealt with a lot of these goons but, I'm not sure if I should allow it to watch or not...
Darkstar (guest)
-1
13 years ago (2010-12-04)
Hmmm describe the shadow more, like any interesting features or so.
bbdeathspark (4 stories) (617 posts)
-1
13 years ago (2010-12-04)
[Update] There is a shadow being watching me, but the second I spot him, he disappears. I can't sense any good or bad intentions from him, so do you think I should try chase him away or leave him be...
bbdeathspark (4 stories) (617 posts)
 
13 years ago (2010-12-04)
Forgive me if someone has already asked you this question, but have you spoken with your parents about these things that you are/can do?
I mean I know if my child had these amazing abilities and was an angel I would want to know about it. I would help them in anyway that I could. Perhaps, you're afraid that they won't believe you, but you'll have to tell them at some point will you not?
What do you think that they would say/do about it?

I would tell them, but now, I don't have sufficient proof of my abilities, and my parents are hard core, and I MEAN HARD CORE Christians. They think psychic things and everything is evil, plus they always check what I'm doing. So yes, sooner or later I WILL tell them, but only when my abilities are FULLY under my control, which I hope will be some time next year, so that I won't end up failing and my parents banning me from these things, cutting me off from my only hope of learning and helping.
Mel33 (guest)
+1
13 years ago (2010-12-04)
I know I said that I was going to take a break for awhile, but I changed my mind.

Brandon,
Forgive me if someone has already asked you this question, but have you spoken with your parents about these things that you are/can do?
I mean I know if my child had these amazing abilities and was an angel I would want to know about it. I would help them in anyway that I could. Perhaps, you're afraid that they won't believe you, but you'll have to tell them at some point will you not?
What do you think that they would say/do about it?
Now, I'm going to try to get back here in a bit to see if you responded, but as of right now I have a 7mo fighting sleep. So, if I'm unable to get back tonight I will tomorrow at some point.
bbdeathspark (4 stories) (617 posts)
 
13 years ago (2010-12-04)
As can be seen things in this 'realm' fall under 'the mind' or 'mind powers' if you will... And by your own admission (see above quote) your not good with these...

When I say physical and mind, I mean for example Mind: Willing people, posting thoughts in their head

Physical: My electrokinesis, using my abilities to help in the physical world.

Once again you defend your Story... But the very next sentence... The very next sentence you say, "I'm STILL not so sure myself, that's why I want valid proof whether I was/am/will be or not."Please figure out who 'YOU' are... What you truly believe and when you are truly ready a teacher shall be provided.

If no one has accurate proof that it is wrong, of course I'm going to stay on the track that what has happened is right. I'm not sure if I believe it, but as long as no one has proof... I guess I have to.

But seriously, could you Astral Project to me? I haven't felt an Astral projector in months, since I got attacked.
moonshine (123 posts)
+3
13 years ago (2010-12-04)
The fact that so few of your supporters will do so publicly really shows the lack thereof. They've left you to fend for yourself.

I've done and said as much as I possibly can to try to convince you that what you THINK you are is only a childhood fantasy. And that your "guide" may not be as pure as you give him credit for. So, I'll say good bye for now.
RookDygin (5 stories) (324 posts)
+3
13 years ago (2010-12-04)
bbdeathspark,

I'm going to take a deep breath... Let it out very slowly and then say a few things...

You have defended the title of your experience 'tooth and nail' stating again and again that it's true...

Please go back and read all of the replies, yours as well as well as all the others...

Next I'd like to focus on a couple of your last posts...

(and I'll quote) "Awww come on Rook, you can play some more xD. Have you astral projected to me yet? I'm anxious to feel your presence."

My answer...No, I said there was no point as I didn't feel that when I posted what I 'saw' for validation it would be 'met' with the truth and that would leave us right where we began...'There is no proof, but I'm telling the truth...' round and round on the merry go round, and I wasn't going to go there.

(Next)

"I suck horribly with my abilities as it goes to the mind, mine are more...physical. I'm trying to train them for the mind as well, like implanting thoughts and things but... Gah. Just... Gah. I need help on that one. Wish I could find someone who could."

I'll differ to the dictionary here and post the definition of...

Psychic: (adjective) 1. Of human mind... Relating to the human mind

2. Outside scientific knowledge... Outside the sphere of scientific knowledge

3. Supposedly sensitive to supernatural forces... Claiming, or believed to have extraordinary sensitivity to nonphysical or supernatural forces

4. Clairvoyant... Able, or considered able to perceive people's unexpressed thoughts or foresee the future

Psychic: (noun) somebody who is, or is believed to be, sensitive to nonphysical or supernatural forces

As can be seen things in this 'realm' fall under 'the mind' or 'mind powers' if you will... And by your own admission (see above quote) your not good with these...

But after posting those statements you 'fire back' at another poster saying...

"I am not lying about this experience. If I were, what would be the point? Why in the world would I even TRY to "trick" people like you? In my case, it isn't worth it. Not that I'm insulting you all but, This crowd means nothing to me, that I would try and fool someone. This site is for me to post my experiences, and I did. I am not lying in any such way. So, we could part here, one believing it's not true, and one believing it."

Once again you defend your Story... But the very next sentence... The very next sentence you say, "I'm STILL not so sure myself, that's why I want valid proof whether I was/am/will be or not."

Yet you wonder why there are those who doubt you.

Please figure out who 'YOU' are... What you truly believe and when you are truly ready a teacher shall be provided.

Respectfully,

Rook
bbdeathspark (4 stories) (617 posts)
+1
13 years ago (2010-12-04)
You have the wisdom of the ages at your disposal, and you're asking mere MORTALS to prove something to you? All we can do is try to change your thinking process, and I believe our attempt has fallen on deaf ears (eyes)!

Uhm, the way your speaking seems as if I am looking down on humans, and saying I am something above everyone. I am open to all suggestions, but their are certain things that I easily know, can't be right/true/exactly right. However, say what you think/want, I acknowledge you trying to help me, and I appreciate it.

I noticed that those who believe you have quickly dropped out of the conversation. Their arguments don't hold water. That in itself should tell you SOMETHING.

Those who believed me emailed me for fear of discrimination, AKA being picked out as someone gullible/non-sensible and others. And of course, those who emailed me, I was able to show proof, and they now believe me.
moonshine (123 posts)
+3
13 years ago (2010-12-04)
How can we prove anything to you? You said yourself, you're part of the esoteric few (big word, I know. Look it up). You have the wisdom of the ages at your disposal, and you're asking mere MORTALS to prove something to you? All we can do is try to change your thinking process, and I believe our attempt has fallen on deaf ears (eyes)!

I noticed that those who believe you have quickly dropped out of the conversation. Their arguments don't hold water. That in itself should tell you SOMETHING.
bbdeathspark (4 stories) (617 posts)
 
13 years ago (2010-12-04)
[On a side note] I just figured out something, OperationX is NOT reliable in the nights. He gets drunk at parties... So if he's posting something in the night, be wary of what he says o_o. Talking to him on MSN was NOT fun.
bbdeathspark (4 stories) (617 posts)
 
13 years ago (2010-12-04)
You know, When I posted this story, I prepared myself saying "If anyone actually believes me, I'll know that even if I don't give enough info, It's still clear to some people that I am telling the truth" And hey, I was right. Some people believe me, some don't. Of course, we share different beliefs, and It's perfectly understandable that you don't believe me.

However, I am not lying about this experience. If I were, what would be the point? Why in the world would I even TRY to "trick" people like you? In my case, it isn't worth it. Not that I'm insulting you all but, This crowd means nothing to me, that I would try and fool someone. This site is for me to post my experiences, and I did. I am not lying in any such way. So, we could part here, one believing it's not true, and one believing it. The only thing is, I'm STILL not so sure myself, that's why I want valid proof whether I was/am/will be or not.
whitebuffalo (guest)
+2
13 years ago (2010-12-04)
I know, RIGHT, Moonshine? 😉

OK.
Straight up with you here, Sparky.
You HAVE made yourself blatantly obvious, and any of you children want to get the e-mails fired up about this exchange, you go right ahead. If ANY of you were to seriously look at the nature of this profile, you will clearly see the character of this person.
PLEASE do not fall for the deceptions. The world is not as easily manipulated as one site may be, with certain members involved.

You did it to yourself, Sparky. I tried and tried again to turn you around so that you could see this in a fixable way. I gave you "outs" and second chances.
No. This is NOT about believing or disbelieving in your supposed powers. This is more about the zig zags of deception that you are praying gets accepted without question, just as that chill creeps up your spine while reading another posting to one of your stories.
I am fully aware that there are things in this world that I am not completely knowledgeable in, but I AM Street Smart, Sweetie, and can spot a fraud. This one is just a bit more obvious than others.
And before any of you others jump on here and tell me that "just because I do not believe in Psychics" or some other paraphrased crap, what I believe concerning Human Talents, Abilities and Gifts has NOTHING to do with this comment, and EVERYthing to do with deception.
The Psychic community has fought for YEARS to be taken seriously... And then this kind of tom foolery comes about.
You have taken a bit away from the community with your actions.
With so many walking away from your page, I know you will try to say it matters not. But think on this. Those who CHOOSE darkness, must also live in it.
bbdeathspark (4 stories) (617 posts)
 
13 years ago (2010-12-04)
I see. I suck horribly with my abilities as it goes to the mind, mine are more...physical. I'm trying to train them for the mind as well, like implanting thoughts and things but... Gah. Just... Gah. I need help on that one. Wish I could find someone who could.
moonshine (123 posts)
 
13 years ago (2010-12-04)
If the point of my post was lost on you, then you should ask Tiron. I personally felt the point was clear.

Rook, I sometimes have a hard time turning off my thoughts when I meditate and I use a silly song to concentrate on. But I'm going to have to try what you did. That would be soooo funny 😆 😆
RookDygin (5 stories) (324 posts)
+1
13 years ago (2010-12-04)
Rashidah,

I don't see why not... Just focus on whatever piece of music it is, to the point that it is all your mind is focused on... That way if 'something' does get 'through' all it encounters is the music...

DC,

Glad I could make you laugh...:)

Bbdeathspark,

He was a friend of a friend and got invited to a party I was having... The 'battle of wills' was simply to 'implant a thought/idea' into the others head... As soon as he started humming that song I knew I had won...

Respectfully,

Rook
Rashidah (guest)
 
13 years ago (2010-12-04)
😆 😆
I understand where you are coming from.

Could it be possible to put up shields with less distracting music like classical ones? 😉
DCinAZ (guest)
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13 years ago (2010-12-04)
OMG! Rook, that is too funny! Now I'm going to have the Smurfs runninng through my head all night... 😆
bbdeathspark (4 stories) (617 posts)
 
13 years ago (2010-12-04)
A battle of wills? Wow. That seems MAJORLY interesting. Was the person a friend?
RookDygin (5 stories) (324 posts)
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13 years ago (2010-12-04)
Rash,

Well met, I hope I'm am not a distraction and that I can help in anyway I can...

It may be less of a shield and more of a...'distraction'... I was challenged one night, in my own apartment, to a 'battle of wills'...Instead of 'shielding myself' I concentrated on humming the theme from the Smurf's in my head... It took about 15 minutes and the person that was focusing so hard on 'putting his will upon me' started humming that same theme out loud... I lost it... Started laughing and that's when they realized what I had done...

Respectfully,

Rook
bbdeathspark (4 stories) (617 posts)
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13 years ago (2010-12-04)
Uhm... Ok. What's the point/reason behind posting that... [I'm not idiotic, I know what your trying to say] I mean, I really don't see what your point is. [No, Tiron is not that bad of a liar, and when he does lie, I know >_>]
moonshine (123 posts)
 
13 years ago (2010-12-04)
bbdeathspark, do you know what the word "tiron" means in Spanish? It'a a verb, and means to pull, tug or yank. I find that an interesting little tid bit. And very applicable, as someone seems to be "pulling your leg", "tugging your lug", or "yanking your chain"...Of course this "someone" would have to have knowlege of that particular language. 😆

[at] Whitebuffalo: "YOU SAY"?! 😆
Rashidah (guest)
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13 years ago (2010-12-04)
Dear Rook

This is the first time I am talking to you in a direct way because I just read something very interesting.

I work with psychic shields. But I did not know that music could have been used to put one up. I find this info new and made sense.

Thank you for sharing that,

Rashidah
bbdeathspark (4 stories) (617 posts)
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13 years ago (2010-12-04)
Also, you think you could teach me a few lessons in AP? Tiron's too busy/lazy to, and I do it at random times and when I'm asleep.
bbdeathspark (4 stories) (617 posts)
 
13 years ago (2010-12-04)
Awww come on Rook, you can play some more xD. Have you astral projected to me yet? I'm anxious to feel your presence.
RookDygin (5 stories) (324 posts)
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13 years ago (2010-12-04)
Well, that does answer my question... Don't I feel silly now... đŸ˜ČI should have gone and re-read before I posted. Thank you for the 'pointer'.

Thank you for answering my question about the song... I asked because I had to put up a 'shield' last night and I used a certain song to help me do so... And before you ask... No the one you mentioned was not it.

So now I shall depart this thread as stated earlier. Only to return if asked... Thank you for the opportunity of trying to help teach some things to whomever was reading along.

Respectfully,

Rook
bbdeathspark (4 stories) (617 posts)
 
13 years ago (2010-12-04)
Oh and, No, I'm not on any medication. I used to be but some doctors said it was "unnecessary" plus my mom didn't want me to be on it. So here I am now. It's funny though, Before I started developing my abilities, it was on the frisk, now its only out when I'm not doing anything important.
bbdeathspark (4 stories) (617 posts)
 
13 years ago (2010-12-04)
Rook... DId you even read the experience before commenting? >_>

After giving permission for someone to talk with him directly, OperatorX showed up. And guess what? His "real" name is Tiron. (Just as an aside, I like the word that is hidden in his e-mail address.

Omg, I did NOT notice that. Maybe he's trying to seem "Smart" by doing that o_o. Oh well, I don't know him, and Tiron did not make an account here, as he's always with me so yeah... >_>. Plus if Tiron DID make an account, he would be on my side/defending me.
RookDygin (5 stories) (324 posts)
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13 years ago (2010-12-04)
May I ask who this Marcus is that has suddenly been introduced into this conversation? Is this someones 'Guide' or marcusj0015 another person who has posted a story on this site?

Respectfully,

Rook
whitebuffalo (guest)
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13 years ago (2010-12-04)
You don't know...
OK, whatever.
I guess I just came to that conclusion as for the comments yesterday starting with "I just found out something..." in a dialogue with moonshine that continues "You mean when you 'made' your guardian Angel type up that... Post?" and ending with "Uhm no, I chanelled Tiron so he could reply accurately..." The additions to the posters, and what most everyone on this site were talking about last night was Tiron coming on here himself.
After giving permission for someone to talk with him directly, OperatorX showed up. And guess what? His "real" name is Tiron. (Just as an aside, I like the word that is hidden in his e-mail address. Anyone ELSE see it?)
And you both were rather chummy last night from the get go.
Process of deduction.
I stand corrected.

However, you did not answer my question.
Are you on meds for either of your conditions? I understand that you have it under control. But. ARE you currently on meds to control your conditions?
Thank you.
bbdeathspark (4 stories) (617 posts)
 
13 years ago (2010-12-04)
I don't even know operationX, and yes, unusual fears and I have ADHD. THough being paranoid hasnt been shown since I conquered my fears...
whitebuffalo (guest)
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13 years ago (2010-12-04)
I...HATE to do this, but...
OperatorX: Please clarify. YOU are bbdeathspark's Spirit Guide, "Tiron". Who is being Channeled through our friend, Brandon? Meaning that Brandon's body is actually typing what you are allowing us to read?
If THAT be the case, Why is it that you did not KNOW of the other...
Not exactly sure as to the validity of all of that, seeing's how Brandon was thoughtful enough to change over to his other profile in order to answer those comments.
I am actually speechless, almost as speechless as I was last night as this was playing out.

Bbdeathspark? You have both ADHD and Paranoia issues? Really? Are you on medication for either of these conditions? That is a bit of important information, that I think I missed from earlier posts. You MAY have mentioned and I just missed. If so, I apologize, but could you please answer that again?
Because all this drama from last night that is trying to carry on into today? Classic, textbook examples of either of those conditions.
Think about it.
And also think on this. Your answers, BOTH of yours... Only ADDED to the questionable situation. Read through it ALL in a few days time, once everything has calmed, and read it again with a fresh mind. I am SURE you will be able to see the turning point, clearly.
Thank you.
Sesshomaru (32 posts)
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13 years ago (2010-12-04)
If you are an angel then you must have your both wings and you must know how to use your wings. Your connection from the third dimensional things should be weak because if you are an angel then you belong to a higher dimension. If you are an angel, it means the demonic part of our soul is completely purified you are not able to achieve any demonic powers, and in your humanoid form you have great danger with strong demons...
Darkstar (guest)
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13 years ago (2010-12-04)
I was asking bdeathspark since I'm curious why it was Marcus who presented this idea instead of his spirit guide.
RookDygin (5 stories) (324 posts)
 
13 years ago (2010-12-04)
Darkstar,

Who are you asking? Myself or bbdeathspark?

Respectfully,

Rook
bbdeathspark (4 stories) (617 posts)
 
13 years ago (2010-12-04)
Oh and, Nah, I don't think I'll allow you to remote view me, you might get info that doesn't belong to you. Astral projection and praying and cards are just fine though. If you face some problems APing to me, it might be my shield, I'm not so good at putting it away once I make it.

I was wondering if you could tell us more about Marcus, like how do you know he is what he says he is,
Oh, I know who he is because I've consulted several people who have met him before, and all gave me Near exact, if not the same info about him, then I conducted tests. Plus his energy is WAY to pure to be anything of harm anyways.

Why was it him that told you this information, what other information did he tell you,
Woah Woah, How am I supposed to know why Markus told me this info... He's not going to tell me everything you know. Also, He's helped me with my abilities, I'm not adept [if that's the word] with my element of Lightning/Electricity. And I'm good at reading people's energy and other things.

and what does your spirit guide think of him telling you this information that your spirit guide wont?
It wasn't Tiron's place to tell me that, so apparently, I don't think Tiron cares.
bbdeathspark (4 stories) (617 posts)
 
13 years ago (2010-12-04)
Astral Projection and Remote viewing... Yeah, I think that'll work. I'm not too sure about cards though Tiron says its no different. And you could try praying too.

What song got stuck in your head last night?

"Break your heart" By Tao Cruz, Or someone like that I think. Whai?
Darkstar (guest)
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13 years ago (2010-12-04)
I was wondering if you could tell us more about Marcus, like how do you know he is what he says he is, why was it him that told you this information, what other information did he tell you, and what does your spirit guide think of him telling you this information that your spirit guide wont?

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