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Athena (99 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-03-24)
Dear Marion, You are welcome. I do sense this is not what you expected or wanted to hear. I sense you know the answer and wanted someone to tell you it or confirm it. No matter where you go to find the answer, you will always return back to your self. I disagree, in my humble opinion, I believe all things are of spirit first, therefore are spiritual. We are spirit living in a physical body and existing in a three dimensional, physical world. Many Blessings to you and japparappa. If you have further questions, please feel free to ask.
Sarah (guest)
 
17 years ago (2007-03-23)
Okay...here I go... About 6 months back my friend Chelsea and I had bought a Oujia board... I really didn't know to believe in them or not, but I was curious we had gotten it...well...perhaps I should explain a bit more about myself... I have been aware from a very young age I knew it was different and didn't tell a soul of such besides my friend Chelsea... She knew about it for years... But it wasn't until my teens that it really started to kick in a whole lot more. I have had dreams of things before they had happend... I have seen ghosts... Heard them... I feel when they are near... I tend to pick up on peoples thoughts a lot lol... My friends that are also pyshics have told me that I am pretty "powerful" and well guarded... That was my problem... Being guarded when we first played with the board... Seems my friend Chelsea was very much open to it... The first night we played it... Not much was happening until a friend came over... He had just moved back here and well I remember we asked if there was a spirit with us and it said yes... That is when it started... Chelsea freaked out into tears and just looked over to Will (the friend that had just moved back) and asked him tons of questions and actually described a friend of his that had passed away during his last year of schooling she explained how she had died she had problems with her vehicle and ended up going off a road and into a ditch... Which that freaked him out... But then I felt that maybe it was okay to listen and lower my will to it...(bad mistake on my part) when that had happened and I actually lowered my will that is when things really started to take off... Really bad it was as if we were addicted to it we had to play it...constantly...we hadn't ran into any spirits that I felt were just down right evil with intentions... Until Chelsea wanted to try and talk to her mother who had recently passed she talked me into going to a graveyard with it...(yet another bad mistake) so there we were in the middle of a graveyard at 2 in the morning ...I told her that I wasn't comfortable with it any longer after about 10 minutes so we left... That is when it happend... I started not being able to stay at her house with her any longer... I couldn't sleep really I hated the feeling of being in her house... But I still tried... One night we were watching a movie...(Chelsea her boyfriend and I)...I wasn't tired but yet I just passed right out... The time frame of this was about 15 minutes I was told... Anyways in my dream I was in Chelsea's house everything was the same except for the fact that Chelsea and Tony were no longer there and the tv was off... I was freezing cold and felt something there... Something that I just felt extreme fear from... I had started to cry I remember I seen something fly past the corner of my eye and I looked and it was no longer there... I just wanted to get out of there in my dream so I ran to the door and opened it and I felt it was following I had gotten outside to a street light that was just out in front of her house...(mind you everything outside was the same as well...) then it showed itself it got right into my face and I seen it's eyes ...it was female ...I know that because of the old gown she was wearing... Though it was ripped and being destroyed with time... She had long black hair and her eyes though... I don't know her face was just dark black I couldn't make out anything eyes besides the red eyes and... That she seemed to be missing part of her mouth... She laughed at me and pushed me down I couldn't wake up though... It was like I was stuck there until she was done with me...(sounds weird I know) she told me "you shouldn't have done that" while she was laughing at bit... When I asked what it was I shouldn't have done she replied "you know" and then I woke up gasping for air and Chelsea and Tony looking at me... They told me what had happened in my sleep... From their point of view... Chelsea knew I wasn't tired I had told her that a few minutes before all of this and well... In my sleep she asked if I was still awake and watching the movie and I replied as calm as ever "yes Chelsea I am watching the movie ...I have been this whole time" even though I was facing the other way... She said it didn't sound like me at all though... I had bruses from it though and I was ice cold to the touch... I must also mention that there were flies suddenly in her house after we went to the graveyard and no matter how many we killed there always seemed to be just that much more... Well that night after I had finally gotten to sleep I woke up the next morning I opened my eyes to see a huge metal insent burner being thrown off of her coffee table at her dog... I got up and freaked out ...we continued to use it however... Like I said it was as though we were addicted to it... But we didn't use it at her house... We took it to my house we were downstairs in the basement room and we asked it a number of questions we asked if there was a spirit...yes...we asked if it was female...yes...we asked if it was related to anyone in the room...yes...we asked if her name was my grandmas in which it replied with yes... We asked how long it had been here... And then it started shooting off so many numbers and I was looking at it upside down so I stopped paying attention to it and I just remember getting such a rush of emotion that I through it against the wall...(the bed was against the wall so it was at an angle)...it was a cheap Wal-Mart glow in the dark board I remember going and telling my mom and just crying ...after I had that talk with my mom I went downstairs to see Chelsea she was sitting at the kitchen table writting something... I asked what she was doing and she told me that she was writting down the numbers that it was shooting off... She showed them to me and it had my grandmas birth date 1-24-39 her death date 4-20-2003 ...inwhich Chelsea never knew all of that... So I was just like we gotta go...(it didn't feel like my grandma that we were talking to)...she went and grabbed the board and we went to the car and she asked if when I through it against the wall if it the oracle was on the board and I told her no... And she said "well when I went down there it was... It was on a number" I looked at her with a weird face and she showed me the board and said "see if you don't believe me look for yourself" I looked and the oracle outline was on...67...that is how old she would have been then... I didn't want to play it anymore... I just wanted to get rid of it... So she said that we would take it back the next day... We woke up and I was already to go ...but there was one more thing that I needed to ask it... So we got it out and asked how many were at her house and it said "45" and then we asked if they meant us harm... It seemed to start fighting between yes and no and then jumped to "yes" I got up at that point and went to go get my shoes on without saying a word... It was then that the oracle started to move on it's own... Without anyone touching it... We had gotten it all boxed up with everything and I didn't want to be near it anymore so we put it in the trunk...lol...now we had to stop by my house to get something there that it needed and we opened the trunk fine there... Put it back ...but when we got to Wal-Mart Chelsea was trying to open the trunk and it wouldn't allow her... So then I tried... And it still wouldn't work for anything... Lucky her car the backseat pulls down so I went and dug it out because I really wanted to get rid of it... And then when we had gotten inside and were waiting in line to take it back... There was a lady that just appeared there lol asking us why we would want to take it back we told her ...and even showed her what happened to Chelsea...(she had like handprints on her that were burned... Sounds odd I know) anyways we kinna got a bit snappy at her for trying to talk us into not taking it back... And so she stopped talking to us... When we had finally got up to take it back it kept scanning and saying it either didn't exsist or there would just be an error with it and she would have to redo it... This happened about 16 times... Though let me tell you when we had finally gotten rid of it... We kinna felt free... I know that sounds corny but true... We learned when we had gotten home that Tony wasn't there he was actually walking back when we had returned... Oh I forgot to mention also that we kept hearing talking that day before we left... And it was a man and a women... My friend lives in a duplex and ended up moving to the other side and they did not follow... Strange I suppose... But you can still hear them over there running up and down the stairs talking you can even hear music... And it is not even rented out again and no one will stay in there for long but anyways that day when we had left Tony ended up leaving as well because he was doing the dishes and a plate ended up flying from the counter to the sink as he walked into the kitchen... He left and when we all got back there their bed was all cut up...like...cut up... So we stayed away from them ...until recently when they had talked me back into playing on with them... This time we made a homemade one... We played it for a few days and ran into a ghost that I had actually seen a few years ago... At my friend Ambers house it was her moms best friend who was murdered... Her mom wouldn't believe me a few years ago that I ran into her ...but anyways she was telling us things that everyone wondered but didn't know ...and it was Chelsea and I that were playing it at the time... And I didn't know that ...let alone Chelsea ...she didnt' even meet the women once... She told us that her daughter was in the room andd watched and that she wanted us to tell her daughter that she loves and misses her and then she told us to kill her husband and send him to hell... That is when I started to back away from it a bit... But later on that night Chelsea and Felicia wanted me to play it with them at Chelsea's new house... And I had gotten a feeling to just not play it... I felt something very strong that had brought tears to my eyes there that night... I kept telling them no... But they finally talked me into it...(another bad mistake) that thing was very powerful... And felt rage filled I had never came across anything like that... And it refused to leave her house when demanded to do so... Anyways it said it meant harm... And told me to die... I know it was aimed towards me because when it just randomly spelled out "die" I asked "who?" I was the only one to ask and it said "you" and yeah... I can't sleep at her house any longer... Everytime I do I wake up not breathing... Every single time even though nothing is wrong... Yet at my house I can sleep just fine even though I know there is a spirit here... Sorry for that being so long >.< I just got to typing and it all came out... Well not all of it but most of it... Feel free to reply to it
T.R. (guest)
 
17 years ago (2007-03-23)
Before I tell you about my dream
I want to tell you about the real life event that happen first. My Parents and I were coming out of the Mall when we saw everybody looking up at the sky so we looked up and there it was.
I swear I saw a triangle shaped craft the size of a football feild. It had 3 lights on each side. One light in the center and several small lights around it. It looked like a city in the sky. It flew over our heads and there were no symbols or logos like a flag on it. It made no noise whatsoever. There was also no gas from it that you could see. We got in the car and followed it.
It stopped and hovered over the lake where it changed shaped and took out of their like it was a bat of Hell until it was another light in the nighttime sky. Then we went home.
This is where it gets werid.
I've had several dreams about it and this is what always happens. We get home. It seems later then usual to us. We turn on the light in the hallway, but the light upstairs doesn't work. It's like pitch black upstairs. I have to go to the bathroom and when I get upstaid I see a black stationwagon pull up outfront. I swear there's a green light from the backseat only it goes out as two men in black suits come to our house. I go out to the hallway and evesdrop. I hear one tell my Parents, They seem like nice people and not to get envolved with this. My Mom asks what it was we saw and I hear one say, It was a craft not of this world. They told my Mom If anybody asked her what she saw, It was the Stealth Fighter(Even through this was the late 80's and we hadn't heard of the Stealth Fighter yet) and I heard ther other one tell my Dad If anybody asked him what he saw, He would think it was atmospheric conditions and then the hallway upstairs is filled with this bright flash of light, then they were gone I go downstairs and ask my Mom who was at the door and she told me they were lost and looking for directions only I didn't believe it. I still don't believe it.

Can anybody tell me what it was that I saw?
One more thing this all took place maybe the late 80's or early 90's in Ithaca, NY. A place that isn't known for U.F.O. Sightings that I know about. Does anybody know who those two men in black suits were? Why after there visit my Mom always believed it was the Stealth Fighter we saw and my Dad still believes it's atmospheric conditions? Plus, can anybody give me an idea what this dream means if anything?

I'd really like an answer
and don't be afraid to be honest about this. The best answers are always honest answers.

That's all for now.

P.S.Does anybody read these comments at all?
I only ask because I haven't gotten word from anybody on this website yet and that's one reason why I send these in to see what others would have to say about my experiences.
Marion (guest)
 
17 years ago (2007-03-22)
Thank you very much for all these advice, I feel more aware now of what happened. I don't know if this was spiritual or not, sorry if it wasn't, but at least I have some tips to control it. Thank you again ^_^
Athena (99 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-03-22)
Dear Marion, Thank you for sharing your dream here. At one time or another, many people (including myself) have nightmares during their lifetime where they awaken very frightened, screaming and/or shouting. This is not abnormal. If over time, it begins to interfere with your emotional and physical waking life, then I would like to suggest to you to find those skilled in such matters who can help counsel you. I wish to add that my comment here is but my own opinion. You are always empowered to freely choose some, all or nothing of what I say here. It is always your choice, and I respect that. Now, as for your dream, the best person to interpret your dream is yourself. The responsibility falls upon your shoulders to do the detective work and research needed to find the answer. You can start by writing your dream down, picking it apart and finding the symbolism of the elements, items, and people who play a role within your dream. The symbols in your dream are meant for you, and you are more aware of your emotional, waking and dreaming life than anyone else could be. You may want to confide in those loved ones that you trust and who know you best. Perhaps, better than you may know yourself at times. It is always good to have input from those who have your best interest and welfare at heart. As you continue to write your dream down with your symbolic meanings, you will eventually uncover the true meaning of your dream. Many times we do not wish to face issues within our waking, concious life, because they are just too painful, frightening and/or problematic. We hide within our sleeping concious, these issues we wish to deny and/or avoid. When we sleep, our conscious also rests and allows our subconcious to rise to the top with all of our pain, fears and problems coming along with it. Sometimes, these issues are so painful, we need nightmares to bring them to our attention so that we can confront and resolve them. Many times the nightmares will reoccurr until it is addressed and resovlved. So this type of dream is a dream where you learn a lesson and resolve a problem. Sometimes, dreams are messages, warnings and wake-up calls to be delivered to others you may or may not know in waking life. There are those precognitive dreams which foretell the immediate or distant future or an upcoming event that may or may not concern you, and/or may or may not concern others you personally know or those people you do not know at all. As you work with your dreams and symbols, you will learn in time and with experience which type of dream you are having. There are other types of dreams where those who have not yet crossed over or those who have crossed over will come to visit you in a dream. Sometimes, those who are presently living and who you may know or not know will drop by in your dream while in their astral body. Dreams are as vast as one's imagination. It's up to you to find your interpretation which you feel is most confirming to you. If you do not wish to be bothered by such dreams you can choose to confront them and resolve them. You can choose to ask that they go away by choosing a spiritual avenue that best suits you to rid the unwanted dream from your dreamscape. It is always up to you who you allow into your dreams. You just need to believe in your own power. Note how you instinctively knew to make your hands into a shape of a gun to get rid of the unwanted intruder. You can interpret this dream just as well as anyone else can. Believe in yourself and stay in your center.
aramasamara (22 stories) (577 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-03-21)
Well at least you stopped the "feeling" but even if you can't move at all, doesn't mean you can't protect yourself... You just think you can't. Hopefully this will not reoccur, but if this isn't going to happen... It may be symbolism of what you need to look into and your views on people and how you truely feel about them. In fact I urge you to talk with your boyfriend is it? About this in depth... Or with others you feel comfortable with, someone you have close connection to, okay.
Marion (guest)
 
17 years ago (2007-03-21)
Well, I'm not entirely sure it was his mum, but it looked like her. I saw her before him, in the mirror, so I don't know if it's still through him. Yeah I got scared when I saw him, though I wasn't that happy when I saw my friend and this woman.

About protecting myself, I just couldn't do it, I couldn't really move since I was so terrified, but we can say I protected myself by using my hands as a gun, as I wanted to stop this feeling.
aramasamara (22 stories) (577 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-03-21)
You said you felt weaker, like your energy was lost yes... Have you tried shielding and such?
aramasamara (22 stories) (577 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-03-21)
Also I made a connection though I don't know if it is right... To me I got this odd feeling that what also scared you is that when you saw him... It looked like you saw the mom through him as well? Maybe I don't know
Marion (guest)
 
17 years ago (2007-03-21)
Well, it made the room very dark, for sure. So not a good atmosphere, I usually go for pale colours^^ but it's true that when I saw him, the room went darker, so I suppose yes, the black came in my mind at this moment.
aramasamara (22 stories) (577 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-03-21)
Yes it does, good you noticed the eyes haha, so just bad atmosphere in general. Everything you said was purple and black... Which means this was taking mainly in the mind part of your body... And this black you felt was invading your mental space yes?
Marion (guest)
 
17 years ago (2007-03-21)
Yes, it was intimidation. His presence in general I think but he had very very scary eyes. I think the eyes scared me, but the atmosphere around him I felt was just so bad and awful. Does that make sens ^^'
aramasamara (22 stories) (577 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-03-21)
Okay so you were intimidated... Was it just his presence in general... Or perhaps a specific thing about him... Like his eyes... Since you mentioned them.
Marion (guest)
 
17 years ago (2007-03-21)
I wasn't scared about the sexual thing, it was just an "extra" feeling, but yes, I felt that I could die if he came closer, or really injured me. Maybe not kill me but certainly going to do something bad.
aramasamara (22 stories) (577 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-03-21)
Did he scare you overall because he wanted something sexual... Did at one point you think you could possibly die?
Marion (guest)
 
17 years ago (2007-03-21)
Okay, so it stared like any other dream. I was in a holiday house my father inherited from his parents and where I spend a lot of my childhood. It was at night. There was my brother, my boyfriend, and my ex boyfriend. We were in a room next to the house. At one moment, I have been upset by the attitude of my ex boyfriend and then went to what was supposed to be my room in this house a bit bigger than in reality, but I knew it was my childhood house. I came in the room and at this moment, I found myself in front of a big mirror, where I could see my reflection and as well on my left side, one of my friend, and on the other side, a asian woman, that I believe to be my boyfriend's mother. Both of them seemed very happy, but I knew there were ghosts. When I turn around, I could see my room, with very dark colours: black, dark purple... One of the wall was just an enormous window, half-opened, with curtains on one side. I wanted to sleep and as it suddenly appears it was the day, I wanted to close the curtains. But I just suddenly moved and view all the room from the ceiling of the room, and at this moment, I saw a guy, a chav, but in a french style (I'm french), but I knew he wasn't french. From the moment I saw him, I just had the scariest feeling ever, and that something was going to happen to me and I was sure that he was a ghost, from the second he appears. He was walking very quickly next to the window looking at me. He was caucasian, but with asian eyes looking right towards mine. I felt he wanted something sexual (I don't know why) but as well moved his lips like to talk. When I understood he wanted to enter in the room, I joined my hands together to form a gun and I though very heavely that I wanted everything to stop, that I wanted to stop seeing ghosts and particulary him. Then I tried to scream and when I realised I could, I just closed my eyes and screamed everything I could, until physically woke up screaming like hell.
I don't lie when I said I had the scariest moment in my life, I could feel my heart rate increasing so quickly and I was breathing very heavily, ready to cry. I didn't feel angry or confused, I felt very weak, like I didn't control anything.
From the moment I entered in this room, I couldn't control anything. This took about 1 minute I suppose. This is what happened and what I felt, I hope it's clearer ^^'
Athena (99 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-03-21)
Dear Marion, Sorry, but this dream description has become too complicated to understand. Could you please start over from the beginning and describe exactly and simply what happened to you in a story and post it? Do not judge it or embellish it, just tell it in the way and order it happened to you. If you and others, would do this, this would be very helpful to all who read the stories and wish to comment and/or help. Thank you.
aramasamara (22 stories) (577 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-03-20)
How do you feel in these relations... Or relationship... Do you feel...stressed, tired, annoyed, aggitated, confused, angry? Do you have any insecurities? What specific emotions came about and at what times?
Marion (guest)
 
17 years ago (2007-03-20)
Hi, I'm the girlfriend who had this dream we're talking about. I actually discovered that what I saw could be the futur related to the friend I saw in my dream. When I saw this guy, I felt he wanted to rape me, but I could only see him from the ceiling, which means I wasn't in the room I think. I asked her if she knew someone like him, and actually, it's her boyfriend, that I have never seen before. I didn't know as well she had one. I can add she always had this kind of problem with boys using her for sex.
The strange thing is I can't explain why I was persuade he was a ghost and why he was looking at me. Do you think visions can be created by ghosts in our dreams?
I could say he had my boyfriend eyes cos of a mix of emotions, but I don't know in what direction I have to look at. It might be stress, but the feeling I had seeing him and the fact I screamed like I was possessed are maybe more than that.
aramasamara (22 stories) (577 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-03-19)
Well to me "charms" can't really help you, but let me tell you what can... Grounding and sheilding and centering... You know all the basics. First off its a spirit...yes, then don't be afraid of it, you are in control. If anything it should be afraid of you ha-ha, make sure you keep it that way. And do not be scared, things feed on your weakness's remember that. I myself have had troubles with things in astral bigger than myself, but your not alone so don't think you are. Boost yourself mentally as well as pyhsically okay. Picture bright lights to ward off certain things, say you can do it. If it helps you to get set mentally scream and say to get the OUT or something like that.
Athena (99 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-03-19)
Dear japparappa, First, do you know if your present home is haunted with ghosts? Do you know the full history of the home? If there are spirits trapped on this side and within your home due to a traumatic or fearful event, they will try to contact you when and if possible. For them, dreams are one way to contact the living. Second, these could just be dreams or nightmares due to stress in your present life. Dreams can symbolize problems (red flagged-wake-up calls), as well as help to find solutions. Thus, dreams can be many things to many people depending on what is going on within their own inner and outer lives. The best interpretor of dreams is generally the dreamer. Analyze what may be causing this. If you have a spiritual base, use this to protect yourself. With great intent and belief, imagine and visualize yourself as always being protected and taken care of. Surround yourself within and without with light from white to purple, the color is up to you. On your own terms, just believe with great intention and conviction. Before going to sleep, make sure your bedroom is free of all stress related items and electrical equipment. Make sure it is a comfortable, safe and peaceful place in which to sleep. Ask out loud for a good night's rest with the highest and happiest of dreams. Ask for positive dreams. Draw your boundaries. If you pray, meditate or visualize do one and/or all. Keep dream and waking journal entries, add notes as recalled. This tool helps to discover the true meaning of "your" dreams and inner symbolism. Treat ghosts and/or unknown entities as you would any uninvited guests, ask them out loud to just "leave". Speak to them as you would to a person you can see with your eyes. The more centered you are the less attractive you are to uninvited guests whether in your home or in your dreams. If you need more drastic measures of help call upon those you feel you can trust, those of the spiritual, paranormal and/or religious order (mediums, psychics, priests, shamans, ghosthunters, and so forth). You may want to try something as simple as keeping a night light on, to just a simple statement of saying your own prayers. You may even consider looking for a new place to live. Your soul knows the reason why you are having these dreams and/or situations. Ask you soul. Only you can find the answer in the end, so begin the journey and find out what it is you are being red flagged to look at within your life. Use your common sense and sixth sense, it will work out. Stay within your center, flow and retain your own personal power from within.
japparappa (1 stories) (2 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-03-19)
how do you mean by being prepared?
I've never accounted such beings as this before... >.< I am a little lost for meaning on what to do, and now scared... This stuff creeps me out, I think they only thing that saved us was my lucky charm but I think I need more than this to protect us from the next time the spirit returns... My friend has suggested "i would suggest hanging something in the window that has been protected"
ah so now, I must be prepared >.<

hope you can say anything else which can be helpful
peace
aramasamara (22 stories) (577 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-03-18)
Be careful, but don't let people or spirits of whatever you want to call it boss you around. Being in this world... And seeing things that most people don't see can have bad effects to it and you must learn to be prepared and careful. Make sure that you both protect yourselves, ghosts are easier to see while dreaming because you have highered your level to meet theirs... If that makes any sense. If you have any questions in particular you want to know feel free, I have to make this short because I am walking out of the door. Sorry, good luck.

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