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IndigoGIRL (guest)
 
11 years ago (2010-10-23)
hello Rashidah how are you?lol, I just got my computer signal working again and I am happy for that.wow, when I came back here, I see there has been plenty of bickering. Oh well...
Just seeing how everyone is.
See you much later if I loose signal again 😁

~IG
Rashidah (guest)
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11 years ago (2010-10-23)
bbdeathspark

I am sorry about that. You make a lot of sense with that one.
bbdeathspark (4 stories) (617 posts)
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11 years ago (2010-10-22)
Wow, When they said for the maturity, you have to be 13 and older, I didn't expect two fools arguing. I'm saddened that one of you didn't just stop commenting. You would think your whole meditation and stuff would make you smarter and more mature. Shame on you.
sar (guest)
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11 years ago (2010-10-22)
Maybe you should tell Rashidah not everyone wants to hear her opinion on here and to stop fallowing me around.
WaywardElementalist (2 stories) (90 posts)
 
11 years ago (2010-10-22)
*sigh* Why must there always be fighting? Everywhere I turn there is unpleasantness. The world has become a terribly place to exist.

~The path to peace is paved with much bloodshed~
sar (guest)
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11 years ago (2010-10-22)
Go on living in crazy world Rashidah, Lucifer doesn't exist, and the mods have seen all your bs on here, fake profiles, insulting people, bullying, fallowing around people to bully them, to think you have a lot of problems.

Fire
Rashidah (guest)
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11 years ago (2010-10-22)
You need psychological help zen for you to make that sadistic statement.

I hope the mods sees that.

Lucifer is a being of wisdom. Something which you lack.
sar (guest)
 
11 years ago (2010-10-22)
mhm, I wonder who will be laughing when your parents die, and then when your fake spirit guide disappears.
Rashidah (guest)
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11 years ago (2010-10-22)
😆 😆 😆
Wait wait wait...
Did you say you have SHADOW GUARDS. Well please send them, I cannot wait to see them for myself.

And hun while you are it, send the pixies you were always talking about to kill me.
They might actually suffocate me with their magic dust.
sar (guest)
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11 years ago (2010-10-22)
Ha, my stroies are so unbelievable, this coming from some who only "psychic" expereinces are when alseep. What proof is there that your not dreaming. Oh and the shadow was one of my gaurds that I told you about and do you remember my warning about them and what happened to other people. Anyway good luck, youll need it for what theyll do to you.
Rashidah (guest)
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11 years ago (2010-10-22)
You are still on this.

If you do not believe in Belial, why should anyone else care? And why are you so obsessed in disproving this story? Worry about defending your confusing stories. Which seems to change from time to time.
sar (guest)
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11 years ago (2010-10-22)
I think your abilites are real besides no demon nor angel named belail exists its all stuff from that made up book.
ohreally (1 stories) (68 posts)
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11 years ago (2010-10-22)
Hey Butterfly, a very common come back. Do you think that you were born with these "abilities". Your are just putting different labels on what Christians call Principalities and powers of the air. I don't mean to sound harsh but you have no gifts of your own to do these things. One of the devil's favorite tools is using our own human arrogance against us. He makes you feel special with these little favors that he does for you and even encourages you to claim them as your own. If you are performing anything that could be classified as magic or healing, you are gaining this so called gift or power from either of two sources. One is very powerful and good, the other is powerful and evil. Since you claim that there is no Jesus and that billions of people through the ages must be wrong, then whatever it is that you claim to do is not your gift, it is you being manipulated by evil. I will pray for you, whether you like it or not. There is always a heavy price to pay when you claim these "gifts" as your own. Jesus is real and He loves you. There you go, you've heard it, and now you have no excuse.
Rashidah (guest)
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11 years ago (2010-10-18)
My parents are not even christians... Oh boy.

Anyways, thanks guys for ending that nonsensical argument. It really did not make any sense to me whatsoever 😐
Much thanks to DoubleMint<3

Butterfly
I got this link via email from a very good poster on this site.

Http://newtarot.com/goetia/goetia-are-friendly.htm

Take a read through. I myself have found this link to be very informative about the Goetia. I have even read some intersting things about Belial.

Like I said before, I believe your account because of the number of years you have spent with him. I have known Lucifer since I was thirteen 😊. And it is possible that I may have meet him younger than that.

Anyways, I hope you are doing well ❤

I am sorry if I allowed 'a waste of time' argument to be ensued on your page.
God Bless
sar (guest)
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11 years ago (2010-10-17)
Then it could be possible he is your spirit guide but it sounds like he is more of your soulmate which would cause me to believe he would become human to be with you. Which in that case what you are seeing is his subconcouis mind projecting itself.
BlueButterfly (2 stories) (26 posts)
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11 years ago (2010-10-17)
Sar:

For a non human spirit guiding a human, I really don't think that my soul is completely human to be honest but that's a whole other story that might just make others think that's something crazy to say. So I probably won't really be going into that.
Doublemint (3 stories) (261 posts)
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11 years ago (2010-10-17)
Thank you Matrix_Wolf _ Spirit for stepping up this is the honor and respect I am speaking about. What we are doing here is sharing experiences if you have ideas share them you may not need it now but there is the future.

BlueButterfly
I am not to familier with this type of spirit contact. My intuitive sense leans towards you using caution if you continue to speak with this spirit. I wish you well please keep us posted I am very much interested in what you learn from this experience.

D'Mint
Doublemint (3 stories) (261 posts)
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11 years ago (2010-10-17)
Sar > I read postings yes a little misunderstanding brewing I tell you what if you both can forget each others comments then you both gain the respect of your peers here on the website. No one loses all walk away in honor.

D'Mint
Matrix_Wolf_Spirit (2 stories) (60 posts)
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11 years ago (2010-10-17)
[at] sar
Enough fighting like what D'mint said... And D'mint is true on this world having more problems. The problems keep growing with the days coming and going. It don't matter what you or anyone believes in. If you think its right just let it be and if you comment on someones experience just tell what you think and that's it. If someone getting at you don't feed the fire. Some people should just be nice, not pointing fingers at anyone either. Dont be coming at me either though... I'm trying to end this cause its stupid fighting over something on a forum that is supposed to help people.
sar (guest)
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11 years ago (2010-10-17)
Look at the first comments, she insulted me when I was just asking questions, I will not sorry towards Rashidah, she insults me all the time even when I thought of her as a friend she said I had mood swings and other insults. I'm sorry Bluebutterfly but just think about it, why would a non human spirit guide an human they would not know how to guide them so guide must all of been human souls.
Doublemint (3 stories) (261 posts)
 
11 years ago (2010-10-17)
[Sar]

Ok we understand your point of view there is no need to throw words. You need to apologize to the young lady who posted story and to Rashidah. We are here to listen and perhaps give advice not war with each other the world has enough going on then to bring on down here.

D'Mint
sar (guest)
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11 years ago (2010-10-17)
Lucifer is a creation of your know unstable mind, made to deal with your own dislike of your parents and family, whom I would assume to be consumed by their chirstain faith and mistreatied you. And due to that you created the greatest enemy of chirstain as a replacment to your real parents as well as a way to rebel against them. Unforunatly you still have to endure them thus when they mistreat you, your mind spawms up Lucifer to fight them off and make you feel better.
HaruNoTsuki (guest)
 
11 years ago (2010-10-16)
I couldn't say if the demon that is with you BlueButterfly is true to his word or not, though according to information from online sources, they do say he is one of the four crowned princes of Hell. Just believe what you believe from your heart. As corny as it sounds, it has worked for me before.

To be honest to those who talk about the Goetia, I really don't believe in such like the principles of Goetia in human form are real anymore. Haha, I used to be easily persuaded to be honest. But my friend helped me, and now I'm capable of making my own decisions without the influence of someone else. I am just a member of this site to help others and discover my ability. Good luck to you all.
sar (guest)
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11 years ago (2010-10-16)
I'm pretty sure the historians are right, the Geotia was made up and they simply put his name on it so it would sell more.
Those other books are based on the Geotia and the stroies is made from. The basic truth is those demons DO NOT EXIST. Now they could be human spirits that took the described from of those demons, but the spirits named in that are all made up.
Rashidah (guest)
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11 years ago (2010-10-16)
Lucifer's elements are air and fire. The Goetia came from King Solomon himself. That is the simple truth. He was a great magicians and all spirits were subjected to him.

And I am not only saying that as documented proof, but also, I have flashes of him form a past life 😐
BlueButterfly (2 stories) (26 posts)
 
11 years ago (2010-10-16)
Sar:

I still don't know what point you are trying to prove, if its true about the Goetia or not. All I said is Belial's element is earth and this has come from sources other than the Goetia too. I didn't ask for an analysis on the book.
sar (guest)
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11 years ago (2010-10-16)
"It appeared in the 17th century, but much was taken from texts of the 16th century, including the Pseudomonarchia Daemonum, by Johann Weyer, and late-medieval grimoires. It is likely that books by Jewish kabbalists and Muslim mystics were also inspirations. Some of the material in the first section, concerning the summoning of demons, dates to the 14th century or earlier.

The book claims that it was originally written by King Solomon, although this is certainly incorrect. The titles of nobility (such as the French Marquis or Germanic Earl) assigned to the demons were not in use in his time, nor were the prayers to Jesus and the Christian Trinity included in the text (Solomon's birth predated Jesus Christ's birth by more than 900 years)."
Thats a history quote is made up.
Rashidah (guest)
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11 years ago (2010-10-16)
Some of my stories are related to The Goetia. You can take a read through if you like. Yes and that is true, The Goetia was recorded by King Solomon.
BlueButterfly (2 stories) (26 posts)
 
11 years ago (2010-10-16)
The Goetia was recorded by Solomon and he did not get the information from exorcism cases. There is way too many demons listed to even begin to think they all possessed someone as it is very rare and usually the higher existing demons will not possess people. There is no known actual documentation of Belial ever possessing anybody, same for a lot of other demons.
sar (guest)
 
11 years ago (2010-10-16)
Goetia is a bunch of baloney made up by some demon obessed chirstian in the 17th century. He made up everything and just took names from exocism cases.
BlueButterfly (2 stories) (26 posts)
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11 years ago (2010-10-16)
Sir Eagle:

Yes I am water, but where does it say that Belial is fire? I've never come across that...I've read in many sources including the Goetia that he is Earth and Earth and Water greatly compliment one another.
BlueButterfly (2 stories) (26 posts)
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11 years ago (2010-10-15)
He's never done anything like that.

And you can believe in your god but I'm going to believe in my own ones and there are many...
NaturalScience (229 posts)
 
11 years ago (2010-10-15)
Hi BlueButterfly, Jesus IS real. He is or was an Avatar. But He was not understood by His followers. They made out of that Jahwe-is-the-Only-One game of Old Testament just a Jesus-is-the-Only-One game, and put the teachings of Jesus about Charity in second line.
[at] ohreally, re-read in the Gospel the criteria Jesus Himself gave for why one goes to Hell and why one goes to Heaven. He said that those who do good to "the least of My brethren" which means, to the least of human beings, will be saved, and those who do not accept this as their duty and leave humans alone who are in trouble (sick, in jail, hungry...), will be damned. This is the core of His teaching. Anyone should keep to it no matter if he/she is an atheist, a muslim, a hindu, or whatever.
[at] BlueButterfly again, if you want to test that spirit if he is evil just remember whether he ever told you to leave a person alone whom you could have helped, or to steal, or to break into a well-functioning marriage by adultery, or to give harm to anyone in other ways, for example, by using a curse against somebody. If he does that in the future, say NOPE and tell him to stay away for by this he proves to be no good.
BlueButterfly (2 stories) (26 posts)
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11 years ago (2010-10-15)
Ohreally:

It seems you believe in Christianity. You have to realize the world is a lot bigger than this. What they say a demon or angel is is not close to the truth.

Hell doesn't exist, Jesus isn't real...

There is higher astral and lower astral and a lot of inter dimensions in between.

Its very funny your so quick to say my soul is damned, haha... Very funny. Your the one being rude here. If I was damned then I wouldn't experience synchronicity or be able to do healing magic or make other peoples energy feel really good.

Please don't bring religion into this as many will say different things and it is just a bunch of opinions...
Rashidah (guest)
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11 years ago (2010-10-15)
I hope you do not mind that I put your experience on face book.
Rashidah (guest)
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11 years ago (2010-10-15)
BlueButterfly
Well done. You know your experience is real and you know this being is not a danger to you.

I can see why he has chosen you. You are strong and not afraid to defend yourself or him.

I believe your experience totally. Please be encouraged and ignore these couple of comments below mine.

Trust me, you are wasting your time explaining it to them 😐

Close mindedness is common.
ohreally (1 stories) (68 posts)
 
11 years ago (2010-10-15)
Have you ever thought that it has no reason to torment you. You are already won to the darkside. You are perfect bait for others, just look at the post you just typed. Wow, Gee, they are not so bad after all. If you want to see if it is truly good hearted tell him that you had a dream about Jesus and His blood last night and see what happens. This is a war and there are only two sides and your eternity is at stake. Do you think after all these years that you have been the only person fortunate enough to find a good hearted one. I agree that it is your spirit guide and where it is leading you to is a whole lot different than where you think you are headed. Maybe hell is not that bad either.
sar (guest)
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11 years ago (2010-10-15)
Spirit guides are not like humans, a spirit guide can represet what it person wants perfectly. It is a fusion of a persons ideals and beliefs combined with the spirit of a past lifes loved one. Thats why he looks so much like your boyfriend because the spirit guide takes your image of your perfect match in looks and actions.
BlueButterfly (2 stories) (26 posts)
 
11 years ago (2010-10-14)
I know hes not lying or there would be cracks by now. I've known him for 5 years. He wasn't created by anybody... Its too complicated to explain how beings like that are formed.
sar (guest)
 
11 years ago (2010-10-14)
Can you ask him when he was created? And by who or what? And when did you two meet?
BlueButterfly (2 stories) (26 posts)
 
11 years ago (2010-10-14)
He also existed before Christianity because they are the ones who interpreted his name as 'worthless' when it does not truly mean that. Christianity stole a lot from older religions. A lot about him may be stretched or wrong but I do know that this being does exist or there wouldn't be any writing whatsoever. I don't believe he is as evil as some writing claims him to be for there is no actual documentation of Belial ever attacking a person or hurting anyone in real cases. Emily Rose does not count... I believe many movies that claim to be based off true accounts are fabricated and this has been proven.
BlueButterfly (2 stories) (26 posts)
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11 years ago (2010-10-14)
Sar

He says he knows my spirit, it is possible that he may have known me in some past life or else he wouldn't have been able to find me again. I do have the feeling that he is the actual Belial, as any guide can have many connections for they exist out of time as we know it.
Rashidah (guest)
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11 years ago (2010-10-13)
I see also that you are interested in magic. Magic is also my passion. I can see why a great demon like Belial may want to guide you.

Certain entities choose people who can complement them. 😐
Fish2350 (1 stories) (2 posts)
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11 years ago (2010-10-13)
Well demons acccording to most christein churches are angels that have turned against God. So don't know what to think about your case here like did he tell you its demoinic or do you assume because there has never been a description in the Bible of what angels look like
Rashidah (guest)
 
11 years ago (2010-10-13)
I also looked at the amount of years you have known him. He has made your account even more believable because it was not an overnight thing. You two formed an actual bond.

There are a lot of magicians that work with Belial. He is an actual being. 😐
Rashidah (guest)
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11 years ago (2010-10-13)
If he said his name is Belial then he probably is. He has proven his abilities to you, so I do not think he would make that name up unlike certain people on this site. I will not call any names.

My spirit guide is Lucifer. I have tested him and unlike others, he has proven himself.

We can chat more if you like. My email is on my profile.

I believe your experience because you seem very mature. I have chatted with some people... Oh boy. But I can pick up your seriousness. Your account was well written and I can see that you tried your best to be honest enough.
Sir-Eagle (2 posts)
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11 years ago (2010-10-13)
Like you said, religion sometimes twists things out of focus. Please do not take this as offence, anyone, but I don't think all demons or devils are pure evil, or angels are all pure good. Take Lucifer for example. I don't think he is THE belial either, since Belial is a demon of fire, and you're a water person right?
sar (guest)
 
11 years ago (2010-10-13)
A name is simply that a name, it really doesn't matter, it doesn't make a person, it doesn't unmake a person. There are many spirits that have the same name, For example there is saveral Lucifers, Beelzebubs and Satans.

Once a spirit is in the spirit world it can look anyway it wants, and be called anything.
BlueButterfly (2 stories) (26 posts)
 
11 years ago (2010-10-13)
Would you happen to have any thoughts about him using Belial as a name?
Rashidah (guest)
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11 years ago (2010-10-12)
He said that he is a devil. Well I guess he is safe since he has not harmed you in anyway whatsoever.
BlueButterfly (2 stories) (26 posts)
+1
11 years ago (2010-10-12)
He said he is a Devil which is a higher class than just demon. Most bad demons are just manifestations of a persons anger or fears and tend to sit in the class of 'demon', so it shows me he is not just some manifestation out to get me, or he probably would have by now.
Rashidah (guest)
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11 years ago (2010-10-12)
Did this guardian come out and say that he is demonic? Or did you assumed that he is demonic?

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