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Reaching NO Mind

 

I am a 31 years old factory worker from Australia, my younger years were full of trouble including drugs, jail and complete disrespect for myself and others. For the past 6 years, I had tried every type of scientific treatment (pills, therapy, hypnosis, etc) with no effect whatsoever, I was actually hospitalized with renal failure after trying to "end" my nagging negative thoughts. During this experience, 2 men appeared and told me "there is a plan for you". Then I could not see where they went, and I have never told anyone about that...

For years, I had try to stop my thoughts but never had success or ever believed I would. Then something happened one night, I was as usual, trying to ignore myself, when suddenly there was nothing to ignore. Now, I know this next bit will sound very far fetched but I'm hoping that others who have experienced similar situations will empathize with me on this one... anyway, I grew, not only in height but in width, I became solid (in a sense) it is very hard to explain but it felt as if my soul/spirit was spreading outwards from my center, then I was able to see empty space, which upon inspection was not empty at all, it has a viscous almost water like appearance to me, I could feel it against my body as I moved through its space. I then became acutely "aware" of my own existence (as a brain and spirit being separate) and I could feel the existence of whatever I looked at, I felt a leaf's life (its warmth and needing to feel warmth), I felt the earth's existence and the direct connection it had to my own existence.

This extra perception has now lasted for 10 months, recently I have become aware that I now do not even hear that nagging voice anymore, in fact I can control it completely. I have absolutely no idea why this happened to me, I was never a "spiritual" guy and do not believe in religion. I am still trying to control this perception I know have, reading people's thoughts has become very distractive, although I am starting to control emotions I receive from others, all in all, I believe we all have these skills, if only that nagging voice would turn off for us.

Since the event, everyone involved in my life has told me how remarkable the change has been, but honestly I do not need to be told anymore, I can now feel what they feel. I am now a non drug user, don't drink, don't smoke etc. I have found that that state of NO mind can be achieved with only a seconds warm up. I would really love to hear from anyone experiencing this feeling as being the only "known" one gets very hard, as talking to people who do not understand is not only pointless and embarrassing, it is creating a label for myself that others can use.

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Eric-Baal (1 stories) (255 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-06-09)
Its actually called Precognition. To see or dream the future. Its a ability a lot of willed souls can have.
futuredreams (4 stories) (66 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-06-09)
that sounds like a very common ability called astral projection I see the past/present/future in dreams which is very rare and I ❤ it
LittleMe (1 posts)
 
15 years ago (2007-12-27)
Keith, btw, that was me who posted that a few minutes ago. I just created an account here.

Rejoice! For I Am!
Go deeper (guest)
 
15 years ago (2007-12-27)
Hi Keith! I have one suggestion that might help you. Go deeper into the state of no mind. Surrender (as Tolle says) into it even more. I have not experienced long term states of 'no mind' but I have had a few profound experiences with it and one experience in particular I totally and completely surrendered into it, with a beautiful sight of nature (a powerful sunrise). My ego dropped completely away and I merged with the source. It was immediately obvious that I felt it and asked it (me) "Who are you?" and it replied "I Am Life..." I asked it "Where have you been?" It replied "I Am Always A Part of You. Can you feel My Love? I Love You! I Am Joy! I Am!"

Go into it deeper oh I beg you please! There is so much more! Rejoice!
a little birdie (guest)
 
15 years ago (2007-12-11)
Higher Intellectual Center: appeals to Zen Buddhists, Vedantists, quantum physicists and Western philosophers, all of whom like to sit and think. The goal is to reach a state of pure thought, which is no thought. Once that state is achieved the ego falls away, and pure telepathy is possible. Examples: the Vietnamese Buddhist monk Thich Nhat Hanh, Lao Tsu, Zen Master Suzuki.

http://www.michaelteachings.com/overview_michael_system.html
roosclues (1 posts)
 
15 years ago (2007-11-21)
I can so relate to your story! I am going some tough "mental" times right now. I am grasping at everything trying to find some peace. I wish I could find some calm. 😳
Yonel (guest)
 
15 years ago (2007-09-25)
The 2 are your 2 guardian angels -- we all have at least 2.

We can grow and develop without conscious awareness -- this apparently happened to you.
Samira (guest)
 
16 years ago (2007-02-28)
Hey Aramasamara, I've read your comments about your near-death-experiences, and found them really helpful. I used to work in a hospital for some time, and saw many people die. For some of them, this experience was very painful indeed, they felt like their "soul was torn out of their body". I felt like dying too when I talked to them, it hurt so much. But now I know that they came out all right. Thanks a lot!
Martin (129 posts) mod
 
16 years ago (2007-02-27)
Hi keith, I'm rather amazed that a few of my comments ended having such an impact on you! And wow, you sure read that book fast! I'm glad it's even helping your marriage. I hope you're not feeling "nuts" or feel you're so alone with this anymore. As for the naysayers, well, just leave them be, just tell yourself they're not ready for you, I guess.

Yes, the book "Power of Now" is a very powerful one, well written and very insightful. One thing that many appreciate, myself included, is the absence of religious references which makes it really universal and fresh. If you liked it so much, I think you'll love Tolle's recent one too called "A New Earth", where he includes a lot of what he learned after making many conferences and retreats for fans of his first book. These conferences are also available as videos, if you check his site.

With that being said, I hope we can expect to read some more stories from you, especially the ones that are "psychic oriented", such as your experiences reading other people's mind and feelings, or even animals and plants. Or those feelings when you actually feel your being grow. I encourage you to explore these abilities in depth, I'm sure you still have a lot to learn about them.

Regarding your more spiritual realizations, we are developing a new site that will be more spiritually oriented and it should be out in a few weeks, if you feel like publishing more stories about those, we, of course, will be very happy to do so.
aramasamara (22 stories) (577 posts)
 
16 years ago (2007-02-27)
Well when people think of dying..people think of end... I didn't see angels I didn't see like a light of death or whatever...just in my mind/body this amazing feeling comes over you where your okay for once, you don't worry, you don't fear, and I felt like I knew everything like I could stop questioning... I didn't have to question or even answer anymore. It was the best because silence is the best. So, this might sound weird..but when I was dying.. I knew that I was dying..but not anything horrible...it didn't feel like dying..because it felt so nice. People associate dying with pain, but it was the exact opposite for me, it was a release. I could finally think clear again, a new fresh perspective.
keith (1 stories) (3 posts)
 
16 years ago (2007-02-26)
Aramasamra, thank you for your post, I do understand how you feel, you sound as though you have accepted the outcome and because of that your life isnt undelined with Will this hurt me? Will I get over this? etc. Do you feel that at those experiences with death you had that your inner peace and love was an effect of the mind(ego/persona) dying? Or something completely different? I would love to know.
Martin, I have just read The Power of Now, thank you very much for the tip, a very powerful text. I now understand why you reccomended it for me. Very liberating to actually read experiences so similar, a great thing to know i'm not "nuts" as I have been told by a few, my wife also thanks you as she can now grasp what I am telling her, as the book finds the words where I cannot.
aramasamara (22 stories) (577 posts)
 
16 years ago (2007-02-26)
haha sorry but I don't get those people that have a fear of death, maybe it is because I have almost died many times..and each time I have come close to death they were probably some of the most relaxed, interconnecting and best moments of my life. That sounds ironic to say that it felt so nice, but it did and so I almost like death in a sense, it's warming. I don't know if you have to go through near death experiences like me to feel that way though. :/
Martin (129 posts) mod
 
16 years ago (2007-02-26)
Hi keith, about the negative thoughts still popping in your head, I think that's normal, the important thing is not identifying with it anymore. I'm sure the ego still have a lot of momentum, and you will continue to go through waves of diverse thoughts/feelings, but if you stop identifying with them, it will lose its momentum over time. I've read an analogy once where the person was using the sky and clouds. When we identify with clouds and there's a storm, we suffer psychologically, but when you know yourself to be the sky (your conscience, not the content of it), you just observe clouds moving along without being affected.

About fear of death, I do still have a good healthy one, so I wouldn't know ;) But I think what we really are afraid in death is the destruction of the ego, so if it's already gone or on its way out, it wouldn't worry you as much anymore.

Unfortunately, outside of a few experiences, I speak from intellectual knowledge from reading other people's experiences, so I cannot fully relate, you're probably better off reading those teachers instead. But if you think I'm helping, all the better, just don't take me too seriously ;)
keith (1 stories) (3 posts)
 
16 years ago (2007-02-24)
Martin, hi again and thank for the links, the Burkett article felt very familiar to read, although the experiences varied greatly, the ""point" or "core" is identical, letting go.
When I stated in the first article that my true reality has lasted now for 10 months, initially the complete intensity lasted for maybe 3-5 physical days, it faded after that but has never faded out (if you know what I mean), I still have negative thoughts pop into my head, but now I see my (you said it perfect.. Ego) , when as before it was me. (hope that made sense). And I wholly understand Burketts' statement of not concerning himself of death, be it his or anyone elses. That is true in my life too, I believe that you are correct in thinking that my Ego had "had too much" and collapsed allowing who I am to appear, and when the Ego dies all worry about any form of death seem to dissapear, I mean isn't it the Ego that creates our fears in the first place? :-}
Martin (129 posts) mod
 
16 years ago (2007-02-24)
No problem keith :) If you're looking for some good online reading while your material is being delivered, I can insert a few good links.

This one is about Lester Levenson. His story is not exactly like yours, but he was facing imminent death because of health issues (brought on mostly by his very busy and nagging mind, as he we tell later) and went on a 3 months introspection that resulted in reaching a state of no mind also, where he felt a continous interconnectiveness (sorry if that word doesn't exists) with all things.

http://www.releasetechnique.com/Lester_Levenson/lester_levenson_life_story.htm

For a man who had just a few days to live, he went on to live another 30-40 years. Its some 10-15 pages long, but it's juicy.

Now here's a short one from some unknown (as in, not a public teacher) that is hard to find these days, but I remembered reading it a few years ago and found it in the wayback archives:

http://web.archive.org/web/20020806193620/www.spiritweb.org/Spirit/divine-ignorance-burkett.html

And here's a page with many links to articles about Eckhart Tolle:

http://www.inner-growth.info/power_of_now_tolle/eckhart_tolle.htm

The common realization of most of these "mystics" is that the mind (which would include, in this context, thoughts but also emotions, forming what would be called the ego) is not who we are fundamentally, but just tools to explore the creation. The problem is we have identified with it over millenias, forgot who we are, the mind is now compulsive (as in, it is controlling us, when it should be the opposite) and we cannot perceive the world without filters, which cause our present suffering (some would say a state of sin) and our feelings of separation from the whole (or as some would call it, God).

Sometimes, in very harsh conditions, the mind / ego can step aside and people will have a spiritual experience, and other rare times, the mind / ego has become so dysfunctional that it melts down, leaving the spiritual nature of that person to shine through, as in your case (I think). I don't know if it's permanent or not, I guess it depends on the person's willingness to stay in that state.
keith (1 stories) (3 posts)
 
16 years ago (2007-02-24)
Martin, your reply is appreciated immensly, I have located some work by Eckart Tolle and have it on order and look forward to reading it. And thank you for your non-judgemental response.
P.S I consider myself a Learner not a Teacher ;-)
Martin (129 posts) mod
 
16 years ago (2007-02-23)
Keith, although I know that you're not a religious person, buddhism (and most asian religions) is a set of practice trying to reach what you describe. It is the experience of enlightement or satori (congrats buddy, hehe), although it may not be permanent, it's pretty close to it. Do some research on that, I'm sure you will find a lot of affinities with zen buddhism, especially.

If you are looking for other contemporary not so dead people that have experienced what you describe, do some research on Eckhart Tolle and Byron Katie. I'm sure others could bring a few more. But the experience of Tolle is close to yours, reaching a state of no mind after years of depression / anxiety / suicidal thoughts / etc, which was radically transformative.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eckhart_Tolle

Essentially, I wouldn't call what you are experiencing a psychic experience, it is more in the realm of spiritual experience, although, many extra sensory phenomenons can accompany spiritual awakening, such as telepathy or empathy towards humans and other living beings.

Anyway, you're probably the one who should teach us now ;)

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