I Don't Know How To Handle My Abilities

Thanks for the comments, I know from my last comment it doesn't seem like it but I appreciate all the comments, even the ones that werent directly aimed at me because I enjoyed reading about what you all are going through too. 😆 ❤

Thanks Islvoter 😊 i'll try to check that out. Also thanks for all your posts that were filled with a lot of great advice & sharing your experiences.

Mazab--

Sorry about the blabbing on. A site that is more suited to this kind of interaction is a spiritualforum dot com. Check it out.

Lora

Eyes--

My apologies too for hijacking your thread. Sorry 😢

I'm not sure what comments I have because you seem to have and be aware of many different skills--and I call them skills. There are people who would love to have just part of what you apparently can do.

So I kind of felt that, as you are able to describe these skills and what they mean to you (as, the numbers mean that whatever emotion you are having at that moment will happen later). It seems like you pretty much have it figured out--as much as any of us can.

Was there something specific you wanted to know about? Many have commented on your number thing, so there are many who do this [They're just all over the world!] As to sharing with people, that's always been a tough one. Your parents may never be ready/willing to handle what you can do. Most of us have to find other people to connect with.

On the OBE that I described (while junking up your thread) it was followed by a long lucid dream in which I was pretty well warned to be careful who I told about this. And I have. When I have tried to tell the wrong people, they dismiss it or sort of avoid me now.

How else can we help?

Isle - Lora

Sorry dude, how rude of me to clutter up the comments bar after your story 😆 I just realised how cheeky that was. Love your story by the way. Very interesting.

Nope, lol this could make a whole book. But look up waldo canyon fire, I had a dream that it would happen but not how fast and far it would spread. It's in colorado and still growing.

Uhhh soo... Any advice for me and the question that I asked? Lol 😜

Marie--

You've asked a couple of times how I deal with "mine". I'm not sure what you mean. I've only had a few what would be considered precogs and they were kind of impersonal. Like, I had an image of a map, like you would see on Google, of an island chain. The map was black background, red island chain in a sort of circle. It was right before I woke up.

I looked on the Internet and found that it looked like Papua New Guinea, and that the flag of Papua was red with black. So I did a search for Papua and 55 minutes before I did the search (about the time I had the dream) there was a wreck of a passenger boat there and 27 people had drowned.

I didn't feel like I was able to do anything. It was pretty clear I couldn't as it had already happened. I felt that I was just being shown that the capability was there--if I ever doubted it.

But other than things like this, I don't have precogs--I just have dreams, images--the usual stuff that most here have. The OBE was weird for me. I didn't tell my Significant Other for three months. He is somewhat open but this kind of stuff "isn't his thing"--so most of the time I can't share it with him. It is lonely. But in my experience, it's a rare couple who can truly share this kind of experience. And I realize that in 5 years, 10 years, I'll probably have totally different beliefs than now (although the same core beliefs, I think).

I don't know any good answers to how to deal with the unknowns. It doesn't seem like the more I want to know the more I get (although I need to be grateful for all I have been given --in the way of answers, pretty amazing things. I have to remember Gratitude--and it repays itself!) So, I just keep on searching...

Isle - Lora

In real life I am very much at the heart of all relationships,friends,family,work etc. The only think I ride solo in is my spiritual 1.Its the 1 topic I rarely discuss with those around. I am not always the observer in the premonitions, I see it from the persons perspective mostly. Being the observer makes me feel like nomatter what I do I can not change the events unfolding infront of me. These tend to be scenarios involving people I either don't know or if I do know them i'm not party to the event if that makes sense. The premonitions are always very diffrent from normal dreams. I joined this site to get advice from others on how to deal with them in the cold light of day. I always write them down, not just to record but because I need release from the emotion that's all too real in them. It can affect me for days wondering what to do with the knowledge, whats symbolic & what's just fact. How do you deal with yours?

I'm glad you watched all segments & your right all members of that panel are equally gifted & all interesting. Very grounded. I know what you mean about having to figure things out on your own as we're all unique after all. You seem to be very confident & comfortable with your abilities. I follow a woman on youtube who posts vids about her experiences but what I find different about her is she discusses her astral travels & tells stories of being in space & seeing things that blew her mind & mine may I add. I read what you said about John Edward just reading people & thought of her... I wish I could go into greater detail of what she has seen but i'd be better finding the relevent vlog & returning with the link. I also think she'd be able to shed some light on the sound you keep hearing if youy messaged her.
Marie 😊 ❤

Marie (Mazab) --

I did watch all that series. I like Ms. Webber, although I think all participants had valid things to contribute.

It is interesting that when you experience these other places, what is consistent is that you are an "outsider". Do you feel that is something that you experience now, in your current life? I have had several dreams about specific places in which I can't place where they are. In one, I lived in some kind of seaside village that had wooden signs with carved white horses with golden halters on them and a red background. I was showing someone around and was saying that that was what the town was known for. I saw a specific big boulder, rippled by the surf, and a few black volcanic rocks by the shore, but I have not been able to find that place on the Internet, nor a town known for their white horses that is also near the ocean or a sea.

The ocean was sort of greyish-green, unlike the Pacific or other oceans. These are the kind of clues I get--ones which I may never find the answers to.

That video series talks about the Mayan 2012 calendar. I am, by birth date, of the last of the 5,335 (?) cycles--on the cusp between the last the and the new cycle. I don't know what that means except that I do feel some of what I am to do is to tailor the genetics of one particular strain to function in this new energetic Earth. I think there are many, many doing the same thing for their particular DNA/genetics. There are some tweaks that we all need to make in order to accomodate the new amounts of energy/light.

But that's all just theory on my part.

There have been mediums and psychics that I trusted, but at some point I always got to that place where I felt I had to figure out things on my own. I like John Edward, but he has stayed pretty much with reading people waiting for connection to past loved ones. As I mentioned, I did resonate with really only one of the Jane Roberts books--called Seth Speaks. It was so deep, but felt authentic to me. I had to read it several times.

But, I kind of feel on my own now--like my journey isn't written anywhere else. I'm OK with that, but, as you say, not knowing answers all the time is frustrating.

Right now I need to figure out what to do with myself for the next 40 years-in order to bring money into the household--and at the same time do what I feel is...right, for me. I'm just waiting for something to answer.:)

Lora

Islvoter-Here is the link for one of the interviews i've watched with refrence to numbers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c2CjKbctDg
I think you will find it interesting. Its the 5th segment of6 this particular one. If you have time watch all segments. I really like the insight Deb Webber the Austrailian medium gives. I admire her immensely. I have also applied a lot of what she advises & incorporated it into my own life.

I do dream of places, locations that I have no prev ious knowledge of & feel strong attachments to places i've never visited & people. My premonitions differ slightly in their format all the time. I can observe from afar on the outside looking in or see it from a certain persons perspective. At the time I know exactly where I am or where i'm going, who i'm with, why i'm with them & what their connection is to me. I never mind that as much as being the observer. I feel helpless standing on the sidelines.

I have great respect for everyone with psychic abilities. I identify more with a selected few. I feel its because what they stand for & their beliefs echo mine or because they seem more advanced mines echoes theirs? Its just like reading stories & comments on here. I rarely doubt the claims & always respect their beliefs, I just know in my heart if they're on the same path as me. Do you have any well known mediums/psychics that you identify with?

I hope you enjoy the link
-Marie

Mazab--

Ok. That makes more sense to me. If there is an unfinished relationship and your current spouse and ex shared a space--I get it.

Lora

Isvoter-To answer your question about my feelings about the vision I had after having my 2nd child is I was simply unequipped emotionally&spiritually to deal with it. I was very young &although i'd had prems before this 1 seemed to knock me for six. My current partner is 8years older than me & is from the same town. He went to school with my ex although they weren't friends but they knew eachother. At the time I had my 2nd child he was a stranger to me that my then partner would greet on the way past on the very rare occasion their paths crossed. I felt that my premonition confirmed my failure to hold my then family unit together as I new it wasn't just a dream it would become reality just like the rest of my premonitions. I discussed it in great length with my ex &gave him the details including the name (a nickname to be specific) I heard the others in the dream call my future partner. After he listened he told me of the person he knew that matched the name & description. I will go find that link for you & answer the rest of your questions then 😊

P.S.- Mazab--

Did you mean has anyone else heard/noticed the jet noise? I have posted on other sites and everyone was kind of like--I don't know what you're experiencing--or why.

I feel the same kind of gut-feeling when I listen to some of the NASA "recordings" from planets. They actually translated electromagnetic waves into sound. Here is a link to the Saturn one:

Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW6zzzXXwPU

This is Jupiter:

Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQnHViDPPus

Come to think of it, this one of Voyager listening to earth. It sounds a lot like what I respond to in the jet engine noises.:

Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JottrWyH7tA

It sounds like movement to me, and the "message" I have begun to take from the jet engine noise is, I have accomplished some "movement". I can't always put my finger on what it is, but I do feel it at a below-consciousness level. It's usually when I'm thinking deeply.

Isle -Lora

Mazab--

What interview did you watch about numbers? I tried to go back through your posts to find, but must have missed it.

The OBE I'm talking about was an intentional type, where I intended for it to happen, to have complete memory of all that happened. I did.

I had read several books but William Buhlman's Adventures Beyond the Body resonated the most. He says people can have an intentional OBE in 30 days. It took me 45 days. But it's been 3 years now since then.

I don't really understand because the experience was very positive. Mostly, things went as I expected, I used the tools I had been taught. It was just that, as I exited my body (and bedroom--astral) there was this young man (28ish) standing in front of me--whom I didn't know.

He was not my guide, or the distinct image I was given of my guide, so it threw me off.

Buhlman teaches you to prepare a virtual target location. Basically, you visualize a place you already know well, in minute detail until you can pick up and handle objects there, turn 360 and see everything.

So I had done this, and when I finally raised my energy enough (Energy now! Clarity now!, etc.) I was able just to BE at my target location. (No physical movement required, different from what happened in the early part of waking from darkness. It is sort of more consciousness than in a waking state, with everything so, so brilliant and distinct. But at first I was in darkness, then as I asked by vision, I could see a hazy greenish tinge to the room. I fumbled around for a while. I could get my right hand out, and I...um...stretched it over THROUGH the door, but I couldn't get my left hand out. Once I asked for more energy, I just poofed out to my target (my virtual livingroom).

Anyway, I was so surprised that I just stood there staring at this young man. He had a pleasant smile--sort of like an amused waiter, waiting for me to get my stuff together. He was dressed in a sports coat and tie and casual pants. [I thought perhaps my guide and he were sort of poking fun at me because I had asked to have ALL my guides gathered around a table in this place. That thought had created a glass table in the middle of the livingroom--that doesn't exist in real life.]

I began to look at this young man's light brown hair. It was a little long, with loopy curls in it. I became fixated on how soft it looked and almost reached out to touch his hair.

Then I thought, "Good God--You don't even know this person!" I had this entire list of things I wanted to accomplish on this "trip" and so I just thought, "OK--go on to the next thing!"

It was stupid not to ask "Who are you?" because now it really haunts me. Is this really my guide? A friend, who has pretty good connections spiritually, got that he was an uncle on my mother's side 6 generations ago on my mother's side. I had done my ancestry, for some odd reason, and traced it back. She chose one name out of the four sons.

So he could have been someone there to teach me at this particular time.

But not being able to intentionally have another has kicked in my own fears --of not being allowed to keep good things. I know it is an issue, because I haven't gotten over it. I know it will take me working through it.

But just knowing those dimensions, those possibilities of help, that knowledge--is all there, pulled me out of the illness. The rest I just had to work out one spiritual issue at a time. Still not done, of course! 😆

I have gotten lots of answers from dreams. I do keep journals--always have kept computer diaries.

For me, I think I can distinguish between different types of dreams, but this post is too long already.

When you had this vision while having your? 2nd child, why did it upset you so much? I see alternate lives as solving problems--in that case, What would my (your) life have been had I not married my current husband, what would the children be like?

According to Seth, that reality exists. All the people there see your life as the alternate and theirs every bit as real as you see yours.

But according to Seth (Jane Roberts' channeled guy), these lives feed back and forth to each other.

It's why we might all the sudden have an interest in something--say, violin--that we had never considered. Or show talent in some area you have really not been trained in.

I see them as positive things--although I ALMOST understand how disturbing the actual experiencing of it might be--but not quite because it hasn't happened to me, except in dreams.

Do you have dreams about places that you don't now know, but you feel very emotionally connected to?

Not only that, but if I watch a travel program about some places, I get this very emotional feeling about them. I use this heart-attachment as a guide to what means something spiritually.

Sorry to go on so long. I feel like we have things in common somehow.

Lora

Your right that people can have a very personal connection to the number that they keep dreaming having visions of & I think that adds validity to the fact that they are truly recieving a message from spirit. The number discussed in the interview I watched seemed however to pop up in most people dreams/visions that sat in that room. The interviewer asked them to raise their hand if they had the same experience. Most people in the room raised a hand. When asked about this the medium also described it as a gateway to the other side. That explanation is something I wish to research further.

I think we are all becoming more reconnected & are having a spiritual awakening in our masses. Its all open to interpretation. I agree that what your experiencing is a way of grabbing your attention & is very frustrating when you are left with more questions than answers. Alot of my answers come to me in dreams. I keep a journal (which is a must as I have premonitions reguarly). If I find myself questioning the signs that surround us in waking life & what they mean I ask to be awarded the answer in my dreams. I tend to over think & doubt myself in waking life.

Your personal experiences are very interesting. How do you deal with it? Have you found anyone on this site that has heard the same thing? Although we all have OBE's its been such a long time since I have woke up remembering mine. What people experience in theirs always fascinates me.

Mazab--

I sort of take back part of that thought, though. I think the number/time/coin/feather can have meaning to an individual because he or she works out a meaning between them and their spirit guide (s).

So, to a specific person, the number 28 could mean a different sort of communication than 4. But initially, it was the paying attention by us that began the communication.

I've had something very weird--it is the sound of jets in the sky. Now, I know that there are actual jets up there. I live on an island and there are jets from Los Angeles airport that fly over.

But for me, that roaring sound has begun to mean something more. I seem to hear it whenever I am getting into a meditative state.

But then, if I asked someone else if they heard the jet, they probably would.

But I'm hearing the same sort of sound in the whirring of the DVR player at night. There is this deep resonance thing with the sound for me. I think it means consciousness is traveling--or it's a memory of travel at night that was significant--like I'm on the edge of remembering it.

I hear it right now as I type this. I am really confused about whether it is "real" or it's just I'm now attuned to it.

And I've been getting it in sych with bird sounds.

I spent two nights at my daughter's place on the mainland last week. I the middle of the night (on the floor in her livingroom) I'm feeling awake but connected. Then I hear a mockingbird do just one "phrase" of singing and stop--and jet engine noises way up in the sky. I hear it everywhere. And no one else seems too aware of it.

It was like when I was very ill and didn't think I'd ever get better. I kept hearing this roaring when I woke. I thought it was the neighbor's golf carts (we drive them not cars). I was P.O.ed because they were coming and going at all hours. I was cursing them.

I was also hearing this popping noise in my head, but it wasn't sinuses. Eventually, I found that each of those could be precursors to projection. And then I began to research, to read. I did have an OBE which totally changed my life. SO--I do feel these things can be attention-getters. It's just hard to figure out attention to what!?

Isle - Lora

IslVoter-I completely agree with your last comment, that spirit uses it as a marker.

One of my favourite mediums answered a question on this from an audience member at a workshop that had been filmed & she said that you should concentrate more on the syncronicities that follow said number.

I enjoy reading everyones stories on here & better still reading answere/responces full of insight that follow. Its very helpful.

I begin to think that, when we begin to notice a certain series of numbers (some people notice time when it is 11:11, etc.) then spirit uses that as a marker, a notice-getter by us. I think they use it to establish communication like, "Pay attention now, I'm going to show/tell you something."

And in that way, I'm not so sure the exact numbers or signs (could be coins, feathers, etc.) matter either. It is the attention. Sometimes, we tie the thing to a state of mind--a receptive one. They are all good ways of learning to communicate with them better.

At least that's what I'm feeling now.

Isle - Lora

Return24ever,
the numbers do actually have significance. 10/28 is my birthday and 7 is my life path number. I suppose I could just notice the numbers 10 and 28 more because it is my birthdate but 7 has been popping up everywhere in my life even before I knew it was my life path number. I actually just found out my life path number last year and while I was in the process of calculating it I knew it would be 7 before I even calculated the whole thing up.

Start looking for connections between the numbers and try to figure out what they symbolize/say to you. If any family members or friends were born on those days of the month or anything like that. Learning the properties of numbers can be helpful in understanding them, pay attention to how a group of six people is different from a group of seven in all areas of life: a sports team with that many people, just a group of friends hanging out, a band with 4 versus 5 musicians. You can take it beyond people but I find it easiest to see how the individual parts are unified and interacting under the number that is at play at the moment. Playing with tarot cards can help gain an understanding of numbers as well. In my life the number 19 comes up all the time and it usually indicates that I've moved forward or will be or an opportunity to draw power, and I've been able to capitalize on this more since I began to learn its properties: mathematically, symbolically, and just what it personally means to me.

Some websites to help learn about numbers.

Http://membre.oricom.ca/sdesr/nuprop.htm
Http://www.virtuescience.com/number.html

Sorry I can't be of much help on the other stuff I can relate somewhat but I'm also still trying to make sense of it.

Eyes--

Well, you pretty much have the full complement of spiritual abilities! These really are good things, although your life will be more difficult to explain to others 😕 But, they don't need to know.

The abilities to see "shadow people", feel someone approaching, "know" things (crown entry of knowledge?), and the numeric thing.

That's interesting to me because I have heard before that others, while traveling out of body will see either geometric shapes or numbers. They are symbols of something spiritual, I think, but I've never found anyone who knew exactly what they represent. I get the geometry (and maybe numbers) in that there are certain geometric shapes in nature, in the creation of physical life--spiral (as in DNA). There is the concept of Sacred Geometry. And I would wonder if your numbers things isn't related to that.

OR it is spirit's special language, special way of communicating to you what is going to happen to you emotionally.

You should feel fortunate. Many are working toward having the spiritual gifts you already have. Now it's just for you to figure out what to DO with them all. There are many ways for one's gifts to do good for others and your ways will be unique from anyone else.

Good luck in your search, but I'm sure you will figure it out with time.

Isle - Lora