2012 Is Calling

One last thing. Theres allways an equal and opposite. No matter what it's for. I already forgot why I said that but it had to be remembered. If there's an afterlife it seems like there is no hell. If you have no physical body there's no physical pain. If you know of an afterlife then seeing death won't be so bad since you know their souls will be fine. The only way of eternal damnation is eternal boredom it seems.

The thought that God would allow anyone eternal damnation seems incorrect to me. However in the sacrifice of living I see pain can be as much the measure of love as joy. I sense no bragging in the love of someone to whom the sacrifice of living for or dying for has become paramount. There are many stories of parents dying trying to save thier children from a terrible fire. This is a world where the maker of kittens puts snakes in the grasses... Blessed be Ladyhawke ❤

What if God is so much more than what we have been taught? Do you think the Creator of All That Is could be offended or angered? If God has unconditional Love for His/Her creations, that means NO conditions! Would a God of unconditional Love send you to eternal damnation? These are the questions I started asking myself... And the answers have set me free. Oh, and by the way... The answers won't be found in a book. I found that I knew the answers all along. Namaste

Many good saints and earliy Christians died, got beheaded and burned at the stake in the name of God. For us to prove our love to God He asks, would we follow Him to hell? In other words do we only love him for His gifts or for who He is? Many say they believe in God just because they don't want to go to hell, but this is not loving God. Another way of looking at this. If you became rich how do you know who your true friends are?

And if Mubashir is reading this, did you understand about the two suns? Love Gerry. Individualist [at] live.com.au

"God asked, "If I loose the battle and end in hell, will you still love and follow me?"
Now can anyone of you answer in honesty this question that God asked me? "

How could I honestly say I'd be ready to go to Hell? If I said yes I'd be a braggart, or naive to the most. No one of us ordinary people would even step into a bonfire for one single second by own will.
But there was one great Saint in Christianity, called Master Eckhart, whom also Buddhists acknowledge as an Enlightened One -
He gave the following answer, having been asked why he risked to go to Hell (for being "Heretic", from a Roman Catholic stand-point):

"Even if I should go to Hell,
I'd take God with me.
Then Hell would not be Hell anymore."

OM TAT SAT!

The answer is easy. You would have God follow you down to the depths of your fears and stand next to you as you face all the terrifying unknown. When facing the most gut wrenching event and you sweat blood (as one did before us) all hinges on whether you are alone... Or God is with you. I said the answer was easy... The action is not... You cannot ask the hardest task if you are not also willing to do the same. It is a measure of how much you will 'be there' for God. If you have trully felt the inner calling... Strong enough... You will deny God... Nothing and give...all.Take a moment and really think that through.

God can never lose to anyone and that's for sure. God created this universe and everything in it and have power over them. He is not some human who creates something and is unable to control it. If you really have been asked this question then it maybe a test of your faith that you will love and have strong faith in God no matter what the consequences you have to face.

Dear friends, Naturalscience/Mubashir, we do have two suns at the moment, one smaller than Thomas (this is the suns name) science has just found it, which means it was not there before. I believe what is happening is that the sun has broken off and will move further out towards us.
To keep from speaking of demons is to hide them. By speaking of them it reveals them and they have nowhere to hide.
As far as my faith in Yod He Vav He, I love Him.
Let me pose a question that He asked me.
Do not sway from left or right but answer truthfuly.
God asked, "If I loose the battle and end in hell, will you still love and follow me?"
Now can anyone of you answer in honesty this question that God asked me? 🤔

Exactly. ❤ Ladyhawke. And now for nonsensical to allow publishing of the post... Thanks, for your patience

The simple thing to remember is this... Prophecies rarely come true. The reason is because we direct what occurs by the choices we make. One choice in a different direction will alter an entire future. Do you really think man's consciousness has not evolved substantially in the past 2000 years, or even the last 100 years? Every time you make a simple choice... The future is rewritten. Prophecy is based on everything staying the same as it was when it was written... But nothing stays the same... Therefore the future is yours to create.

I feel a lot of need for information. What we take to heart is more 'between the lines'.At some point in life it doesn't matter how much you've studied or from what source all the information came. If you ever even once called to God and asked to know, an agreement was made, and your prayer has been answered ever since. You are deciding where your focus goes... That which we focus on becomes our God... And learning 'the truth' will take as long as you want it to. Like a holy tuning fork to the piano strings of your heart of hearts, what you actually need to know is clear and fine like the fragrance of distant lavender... You can pick out the smell of lavender from a meadow full of wildflowers tho all are beautiful and very distracting... We are the only ones of this planet that need to accumulate knowledge, geese find thier way every year, guided by inner knowing, the very thing we spend most of our time trying to accumulate rather than use. Blessed be, and Happy Valentines Day, Ladyhawke❤

[at] Truely-unkown. Well that's great you think this way. You believe in something and are ready to face the results of your actions whether you are right or wrong. If you truely think this way, then you are strong that you speak your beliefs and stand up for them. Never let anyone change your mind no matter what others say. Everyone have thier own beliefs and sometimes they are changed by others and sometimes not. But no one has any right to criticise others beliefs. I realised it when I was giving a deep thought about beliefs. Anyways keep it up. God bless you. 😊

Shapeshifter, you may believe in my idiocy if you like. By now I have learned not to care too much about beliefs besides the reasons behind them, I feel you do not fully understand the meaning of what I have said last. I have not fought a powerfull "demon' as you call it. I guard myself and let them fade out of my life rather than waste energy in a battle. I need my energy seeing as it is rare for me to sleep at night, hence I now prefer to be in the shadows unnoticed as much as possible. Everybody should follow their rulebook while I follow the few rules I have. You misunderstand, I do not label this a joke. I do not label it something for my top concerns either. Again if I am wrong I will accept the consequences knowing I did my best. Everybody is wrong at some point in there lives. If the regular amount of people make it through then I will crack a joke, but I do not label this a joke as I have already said. I have dreamt of my end and one of my friends, but not the worlds. I have dream't it by four bullet wounds diagonal from my right side to my left shoulder, the other two would hit at my second rib going up and in my heart. That is another matter though.

Don't talk too much about demons. It evokes them, especially if you write or say their names. More important is the fact that Anxiety is not a good Counselor, and an excess of remembrance of Evil Spirits causes people to be scared. It confuses them.

Gerry you expect too much if you say those who are with God can't have anyone against them. Firstly it is a contradiction in itself, for those on God 's side of course get attacked and harassed by bad entities which want them to feel bad and to get confused, and also by humans who are trapped in Envy, Hatred, and Jealousy. Secondly: Remember Jesus - almost all the world was against Him when He hung on the Cross! He seemed to be the Ultimate Looser! But you know what He really was: "Christ the Victorious."

But you make people expect too little, Gerry, if you say it is wrong to let no one sway one's determination. I did have one but doubted it too much. Thus I let many teachers, real ones and faked ones, sway me - my readiness to follow and believe was OK but naive - and thus confuse me. This was wrong - I could have spared me much suffering by being less trustful!

The efforts I made to get out of these confusions again, however, and the analyses I made why this or that doctrine which sounded perfect was not perfect at all and led me into a mess, then, were the thing that really gave me some overlook (if you want, call it wisdom instead, if you dare use this holy word...) Trial and Error are the base of all true Science.

So brethren try and err, pray much or pray little just as your state of physical and mental power allows, follow a dogma or doubt it, but whatever you do, cling to God who is Real, God who hath Made us ALL, ward off all kinds of Cynicism, for if you deny God you are bound to end up in Despair or Suicide.
And avoid lying and all kinds of fake and fraud - for those who lie get belied and are bound to end up in Insanity. Only those who sincerely love Truth can find it!

Hey gerry I have a question. How can there be two suns at the same time, we all know that there is only one sun present around us. Well its pretty possible that world's end will be with a great fire that will engulf the whole world and destroy it. What about the fire that is inside the earth and thanks for the lead Gerry. 😊

There are Good angels and EVIL ones they rebel against everyone because they are jealous of us.
I would recomend you read the Book of Enoch.
😊

Just to clarify about the end of the world.
These are the possible scenarios.
The world bank finally dies? (Good)
The dark angel will appear as the helper of man and say he is God or Christ to which many will be deceived?
Due to having two suns we will have catastrophic solar flairs resulting in heat waves and many deaths?
There is no sign of a meteorite, if there is it is called Wormwood which will poison all the waters?
The thing is that each time a big event happens, many will die?
The dracos and the grey will finally reveal themselves because they now have a perfect resemblance to humans.
In the bible it explains that all events will destroy a third at a time?

Guess I have to do some research on the characters first and then read the whole story of the rebellion. Well in some articles, they say that satan and his angels rebel against God. Maybe the angels you metioned were the angels of satan.

My dear friends and Mubashir, You mentioned that a being called Eliphaz was the one that started the rebellion, this is far from the truth. Eliphaz was one of the three men that went to speak with Job when he was in trouble. I have given you the names of the fallen angels that started it all.
Take care and keep trying.
Gerry

[at] Musicfreakbw. Well there are people who think that there is no God and deny it, but deep down in there heat they believe in God. Well not everyone is a strong believer of God. Some are weak, some are normal and some are strong in faith. But there is no one who denies the existance of God. My meaning is that some people worship gods with different identities and characteristics (in fact they are actually worshipping one God). As for you. You believe in spirits and stuff like that. You see the truth when you believe in truth. Deep down in your heart you believe in God, even a little bit. Otherwise you will stay blinded by the truth around you. Thats what I think and feel. As for these crazy rumors about world's end in 2012. Dont pay any attention to them.

I'm going to be honest with all of you, I was never a really religious person. I didn't know if there was a God and honestly I wasn't to worried. I just live life to my fullest. Taking most oppurtunities I could get. Then this "gift" started to happen. I didn't know what to do about it and I joined this website. Once I started reading about it I really became more confused about what I believed. I've always believed in spirits and such because I've had encounters with them before. I don't believe the world will end in 2012 for the reasons people say it will, but really nobody can say that it won't end for any reason. I'm still young and I'm not very educated in religion at all but that's just how I feel.

Wow thanks everyone there were things I wasn't aware of before but I am now. Especially the fallen angels. I never knew there was actually an angelic rebellion. Anyone know the full story in detail? I was reading an artical about this rebellion that says that an angel named Eliphaz started this rebellion. Well correct me if I am wrong.

My dear friends, let me intercede. The devil has done three things to elude you, it firstly let's us think it's not real, secondly we are all going to heaven, thirdly there is no evil?
God has no time for the demons and that is why they are banished from Heaven.
There were many watchers that had fallen, and they all did their bit.

Jegon led the angels to do wrong by God.

Asbeel led them to have relations with earthly woman an to have Nephilim (giants) that tryed to destroy mankind.

Gadreel taught man how to fight and kill and use weapons.

Penemue taught man how to use ink and paper and the secrets of the heavenly wisdom.

Kasdeja taught abortion.
These are the chief demons.

Satan it self is semjaza,semiazas, shaitan, (probably more)

The demon that induced God to test Abraham to kill Isaac is mastema in latin it means I swear.

So please don't think for one second that evil does not exist, this is how they work.

We must be on guard at all times, the people God has chosen know things are happening, in the words of Jesus (Yeshua) have your bags ready. Lots of love Gerry. PS nobody is an idiot, to call someone a fool is a road to Gehenna.

An old teaching of Bushido tells the student to occupy one moment without thought... More clearly a moment of being without thinking of anything. No fragmenting of reality into words-only the whole entity experience of now. I realize this is a difficult place to find yourself. But from here comes the answers to all the questions, leaving plenty of time and energy for our actions, which is the teacher whether we choose to teach or not. (It trully is the mother of ten thousand things). And though there is nothing wrong with seeking, the finding moment is so simple and clear as to seem small and invisible in the wake of so much information. Enough nutrition will make you strong and able to resist weakness. Too much nutrition will make you too full to even get out of your own way. Here is a question... If you take away all the words, every one... What would you be left with? ❤ Ladyhawke

[At] NaturalScience
I liked your observation of good and bad. Even though with the absence of one it won't really matter. I can't really agree to a eternal damnation either, but another story. Also, as much as I would like to disagree with a place of god's wrath. It is true in a way and it's met with all best intentions.

[At] Barry2962
Everything should be treated fairly without judgement. I've heard something similar to what you've said Barry and I can agree to most of it. Judgment is just another way of pointing out the flaws in (insert higher being (s)) creature.

Mubashir and Barry you both are partially correct. But not in all respects.
Barry you said "God is ALL of it... The good as well as the bad. To call anything good or bad is to place judgement on it based on our own beliefs..."

It is true that God is in every atom, and that nothing happens without Him to allow. Remember this is believed as well by Hindus as by Muslims. Even Hell is not a place of God's absence, it is only a place where He shows His wrath...

But the fact that GOD IS EVERYWHERE does not extinguish Good and Evil.
Our human world, though made by a Being which is Non-Duality by nature and encompassing everything be it "good" or "bad", is based upon distinctions of Yes and No, Night and Day, Good and Bad. The first thing God made, according to Genesis Chapter 1, was the distinction of Light and Darkness. Without it there would be "tohu-wa-bohu", i.e. A complete mess, on Earth.

Thus no degree of recognition of Gods Non-Duality, nor of His Omnipresence, can get us off the duty of distinguishing Good and Bad in daily life and living according to our recognition on THIS plane of thought.

Nor will this knowledge of Non-Duality rid us of the knowledge that there IS a Good Side in the Spirit world and a Bad Side, or of the necessity to choose our side in this eon-old "Divine Game" of Good against Evil.
The Hindus, you know, have Deities which look as fierce and horrible as demons, as well as Deities which look as bright and friendly as Jesus. This is so because of their knowledge of Non-duality: they know that God may make use of terror and darkness for His aims as well as demons do, and they know that the same forces of Nature that can kill also can heal and save. But even they, in whose image of the Spirit World Good and Bad seem to intermingle, do know Demons (asura) as opposite to Deities (sura). Their fierce Deities are constantly occupied with the killing and devouring of Demons...

I agree with you Barry that there is no ETERNAL hellfire. All souls have the chance to ascend again if they have fallen, even Devil/Shaitan himself. But there IS a "lower astral world" in which fallen souls have to suffer and to get isolated as result of evil deeds while being incarnated - perhaps for eons, which to our ancestors seemed "eternal", hence the idea that there could be an Eternal Hell for the worst of criminal souls. Moreover, even one hour in such a lower astral world can feel like eons to the poor souls suffering there... Thus the fact that there is no eternal damnation is not at all an excuse for spiritual irresponsibility. No bad deed remains without its proper consequences, no matter if they happen during this incarnated life or in the Beyond. God never looks away!

Moreover there are principles and commandments which are MORE than results of individual or collective human choice. There IS a true core within all existing religions which is rather identical no matter if you are a Muslim, a Christian, or even a Hindu who bows to Shiva and Kali!
This true core is called by the Haidakhan Babaji followers the Eternal Law or - in Sanskrit - Sanatana Dharma. Charity is one part of it; to be industrious and to earn one 's life only by honest means is another; to show Reverence to God by Prayer and Ceremony is a third.

Ladyfhawke, you called for more Sanatana Dharma consciousness within all of us by your report. May it grow within us all, according to the frame of culture and dogma we learned (i.e. One of us is christian, the other Muslim and all this contains Sanatana Dharma) and help us do all we can to please our Creator and avoid everything that could bring His wrath i.e. World War III over our heads. Om / Amen!

[at] Barry2962.Well I say the more you desire for knowledge and truth, the more you gain. If that's what you believe in, then that's great and don't let anyone confuse you. By alpha and omega anyone can understand that God is the begining and the end. But some deny it. May God bless you and protect you from any physical and spiritual harm. 😁

At Mubashir... I didn't mean to put down your beliefs friend. I just choose to see God as so much more than we have been taught. I used to believe the same as you, but now I see God as the energy of ALL THINGS... The alpha and omega... The beginning and the end... And as such, that would mean God is ALL of it... The good as well as the bad. To call anything good or bad is to place judgement on it based on our own beliefs...

Wow I missed a lot of conversation. And shapeshifter if you don't agree with truely unkown then you shouldnt be calling him an idiot. Well I learnt my lesson today. Its pretty strange that people believe in God and don't believe in devil. As you know that devil has many names, so its not really a concern. If my knowledge is not wrong, he used to be a teacher of angels. Before that he was a spirit who worshipped God very much and as called to heaven as the reward. When the time came for the creation of mankind. God ordered all angels and devil to bow before Adam. All angels obeyed the order and devil refused to bow before him and said why would I bow before someone inferior to me. Because of his arrogance God exiled him from heavens. Thats where he bacame devil. He was the one who tempted Adam and eve to tase the forbidden fruit that was the reason both of them were exiled from heavens. Well if you want to believe it or not its up to you that devil is mankind's greatest enemy.

[at] ladyfhawke, do not forgot that shadows grow the longest when the sun is at it's highest peak. A quote made up by me.