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My Own Experience With Astral Things

 

About 8 years or so ago, I became interested in the "art" of divination; it seemed I might have had some ability using the pendulum as I dowsed for underground water veins/telluric energy.

I got way ahead of myself and decided to use it for communicating; I won't go into detail of just whom I was trying to contact but I had, nonetheless, thought I had a firm idea in my mind; I kept my thoughts clean and clear and so forth and began.

It took a bit as well as some energy and intent but eventually I made contact, it started out seemingly well enough, I first started out with "Yes" and "No" type questions and at some point I made a small "Ouija" board which was just a sheet of paper with the alphabet printed on it. As I have shaking hands, a planchette would not work for me so I used my pendulum as an indication of what letters were chosen.

I even kept a log of the conversations and it seemed quite fun and interesting too.

Just where it started to take a turn for the "worse" I still am unsure. After some point I started getting some odd messages, maybe from different entities or maybe it was the same one. I asked its name and got ambiguous answers or just weird stuff.

I should back up a tad and say that normally I am a very skeptical and guarded person and I read that this was supposedly a hindrance to dowsing so I went against my nature, suspended my natural skepticism and tried to approach this venture with a "innocent" mind... This would prove to be SO very, very wrong.

Also...I was (and still am) a lonely individual; I don't much like my life or this world and always felt from a very early age that I don't belong here. (maybe more on that later) This too will play a big part in what had happened.

Anyway, as I spoke to this... Whomever or whatever it was, it told me it was from another world. Fair enough as Earth isn't the only pebble in the cosmos; it told me all sorts of stuff... Not wild but interesting. It claimed that I could go to its world if I wanted to and to make this proposition seem all the more juicy it claimed I had these "abilities" that would be of benefit to its world.

Now mind you, at this point I didn't think to question it because, after all, I thought I was talking to someone sane and truthful. I became convinced, for that short time, that I really was going to another planet. (Yes, yes... I know... Stupid of me but just wait a sec, it gets better)

During this time I decided to tell my father about this... Unfortunately I forgot about how gullible he too can be (Gee whiz... Wonder where I got that from, eh?) And he started using his pendulum to talk to this "thing" too but he hadn't any better of an idea just who or what he was talking to and I suspect that this too attracted some scumbags as well.

Well...we both got suckered into this idea that we both would be going to this new world; in fact we got so mired that at one point we had a huge garage sale and sold practically everything we had save for essentials. We even bought a cart to hold our stuff for the big "move".

We were told at one point that a portal would be opened and our "friend" would come through and help us... First we were told garbage such as that our astral bodies would go first and then our physical bodies would follow. (Don't ask how that is even possible)

Then we were told that another portal would open at a certain point and time and like naive fools we actually sat and waited for this thing which never came.

To show you how dense and gullible we were at the time, we waited repeatedly for this fantasy to happen. At some point my intuition was telling me we were being hosed BIG time but my father was so mired he would not listen to me, he basically said he didn't want to hear it and that my doubts were going to impede this "portal". How, might you ask, does he know? Because some spook, that he thinks he contacted, told him so.

At times my father was told we were in danger of being attacked by some "evil ones" which would arrive via some "portal" (again with the portals) and told us to leave our home for awhile... This happened a few times too.

Well, the last straw came when my father was told that this "portal" was coming and to be ready so my father packed our stuff, put it on the moving carts and we waited.

First we were told it would be within the hour and of course nothing happened and my father claimed he was told there was a slight problem but it would be within the next half hour... Again nothing. This went on and on and my father had us wait for 36 hours before I got really fed up and told him once and for all that this was a big hoax, a horrible deception and there will never be a portal.

I asked him just how much longer he was planning to make us wait for this thing, another 12, 20, 32 0r 72 hours? I also asked "Didn't you ever think it was odd that we were told the same thing when the portal did not come such as just a little longer or some story?" Well, at first he tried to claim that my doubts and disbelief had forever prevented this portal and I told him it was pure garbage and that we were the butt of some horrible joke. He asked me why I didn't tell him sooner and I got really irritated and told him I tried and I reminded him that he told me every time that he didn't want to hear it.

So needless to say that the whole experience soured me quite a bit but it also brought home the point that the realm we label the "astral" is just a dicey and suspect as this world. Full of liars, criminals, and hateful individuals. All the happy, white light thoughts in the world is no guarantee that one will contact only "good" beings. Everything one is told should be treated with some modicum of skepticism; my mistake was pushing aside my skepticism because I had read that this was an impediment when it really is one of the best buffers one has against such deceptions.

I write this partly as a warning that communication with any entity is dangerous and no amount of circles, candles, and happy loving thoughts will do anything; abandoning skepticism is NEVER a good thing. The "astral" or whatever you wish to call it is not really any different from any other world, it has its criminal elements too. Nothing can or will prevent anyone or anything from lying, creating hoaxes and deceptions, or being abusive and manipulative.

I guess my experience has scarred me a bit and I have become much more skeptical and analytical about many things. Was I stupid? Yes, I was. Was I naive? Absolutely.

Did I rush head long into something I didn't understand? Yes. I should have seen through it from the very beginning but I got caught up in my own fantasy that I didn't want to think that I was being lied to by a thing that pretended to be my friend.

Oh, we had some interesting conversations but it was all a lie, my trust and friendship, which I gave all too freely, was abused.

The point is, don't go rushing into something you don't really understand (or even if you do) just because it sounds "fun" or because upon first try you are told all sorts of "cool" things. All the candles, incense and prayers are not enough, your intuition and yes, even skepticism, are some of the best defenses you can ever have. I should never have let down my guard or pushed aside my own nature... For that I was burned. Don't let yourself get burned too.

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InjuredAngelHeero (4 stories) (87 posts)
 
10 years ago (2010-12-17)
What happened is a classic result of using ANYTHING relating to a ouiji board, you were luck something truly evil didn't take the chance to attacht itself to you.

Through countless books and shows based on eyewitness account I have seen, trying to contact something using dowsing, ouiji boards, or anything similar always ended with people getting physically hurt.

'Magic' like wicca or magic spells/potions also open us up to spirits of evil intention, it is best to avoid stuff like that unless you really know what you are doing.
Shidaji (1 stories) (1 posts)
 
10 years ago (2010-12-01)
I do not really believe you were technically influenced, but more along the lines of it picked up on what your weakness was and preyed on it. With some easy words, you technically did all the work for it. I guess what I'm trying to get at, is nothing is more defined and undefined then that of a mind.
ohreally (1 stories) (68 posts)
 
10 years ago (2010-11-29)
I can understand what you are going through and I had the same view on this world as you. I found an explanation for why I never felt like I belonged in this world and it worked out to be totally true and my life has been forever changed. I know that you have heard the story of Adam and Eve. I myself have now spent a lot of time in the Bible. What I have come to learn is that when God created man and woman, he created us to live in His presence, He created us to live eternally with Him and in commune with Him. Then sin entered this world and our relationship was forever changed. Evil, sin came in and the earth was cursed, man could no longer live eternally in God's presence because He cannot look upon sin and unfortunately the wages of sin is death. So from that time forward all men and women have an appointed time to die. My point is that God designed us to live in His presence the Garden of Eden, Heaven, forever. He did not change our design, we are not at home in this world, we were not designed to be at home in this world but sin sentenced us to death. However God sent Jesus as a once and for all sacrifice and you need to excercise that free will to choose Christ and you are promised by God that you will never die. When you close your eyes for the last time on this earth, you will open your eyes to your true home and you will never be home sick again. That is our Hope in Christ Jesus, we look forward to being home in the place that God made us for. Jesus came to earth so that we could go home, to the home that God designed us to live in forever. It is still home and Christ made the way for you to get there. That is why you are home sick because you were not made to live in this world. Read the Bible, ikt is the handbook for all things spiritual and the Gospels are your road map to the place you are really longing to be.
Rashidah (guest)
 
10 years ago (2010-11-18)
That is true. Finding the right person to chat with is very difficult. But keep searching and do not give up. You can send me emails on anything if you want 😊
Chetyre (guest)
 
10 years ago (2010-11-18)
Well...to be honest it is more and more difficult to deal with people; it seems like it is becoming far more tedious trying to have a conversation with people if the topic goes beyond sports or the weather.

If one tries to have a conversation that goes outside of the sandbox then either people will nod then politely excuse themselves or they will simply tell you that you are wrong because the "bible" said this or that.

So many people are inundated with religion and especially Christianity that they refuse to even entertain other avenues of thought. I do not mean for this to be insulting though I am afraid I have already stepped on some toes already. 😉

The most important thing I think people need to realize when they decide to converse with "spirits" is to never assume that they are superior and let them control you. After all advice is just that, advice and there is nothing that says one must adhere to it.

Question everything... That is what I should have done so I have been doing this now for quite some time.
Rashidah (guest)
 
10 years ago (2010-11-18)
Now don't get me wrong, I still test my spirit guides and I do not always agree with their advice. But they are generally good in the end.

I myself need counseling in that area of trust because these days I tend to become too guarded. Especially with dealing with people on the whole.
Chetyre (guest)
 
10 years ago (2010-11-18)
Thanks.

Maybe as time goes by things will get better.
But right now there is just so much that needs to be cleaned up in my own mind, I guess I have become so jaded and disgusted with everything that I question the very reality we live in.

I am glad you have someone who you trust.
Rashidah (guest)
 
10 years ago (2010-11-18)
I have trust issues with people and entities also.

There are really nasty entities out there but there are also the good ones who are willing to guide us humans into becoming Godlike like themselves.

You just have to test them. Do not allow some scum bags from preventing you to acknowledge your spirit guides.

I honestly did not know how to answer you, but my guide is helping me give you this advice.

The spirit world can be terrible yes, but there are also a lot of goodness to be found there.

Seek and Ye shall find. Even if you have to kiss a few toads along the way before meeting the real princes. 😊
Chetyre (guest)
 
10 years ago (2010-11-18)
Well...that's just it. I never really trusted anyone to begin with even before all this happened. I used to think that the only thing I could really trust was my intuition but... If it is true that these scumbags in the "astral" can influence your subconscious then that too is not worth trusting.

For myself, just because I might think or feel something is true doesn't mean it is.
Rashidah (guest)
 
10 years ago (2010-11-18)
I understand you totally. But my dear if you do not get back into the habit of trusting your own intuition again then what or who can you trust?
Chetyre (guest)
 
10 years ago (2010-11-18)
My biggest issue now is my supreme skepticsm. It has become a hindrance because I now tend to throw the proverbial baby out with the bathwater.

Like I said before... I find it nearly impossible to trust my so-called "intuition" and have questioned everything in life including most of the esoteric and spiritual beliefs and concepts that society holds as absolute truth.

I am sorry that you had such a rough time of things too. The scars can run long and deep, can't they?
Rashidah (guest)
 
10 years ago (2010-11-18)
No hun, I would not say that you were an idiot.
When I was younger I also did some mishaps when it concerned the spirit world. I tried to control spirits that were greater than I am.

That did not ended well 😐
Chetyre (guest)
 
10 years ago (2010-11-17)
[at] Moonstryke: I can understand your skepticism on the shaking hands thing but I find it easier to use a pendulum because it does not require the fine motor skills that writing, drawing or placing lightly on a planchette requires.

I don't mean to sound rude but unless you have experiences this type of physical hindrance then I am afraid you may find it hard to understand.

As for my father... He can be a bit gullible at times. Guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, eh? 😉

[at] Rashidah: I had thought I was shielded but I focused on using thoughts rather than tools and props to do the job.

I tried to keep my intentions as amiable and simple as I could but...well, let's just say I was an idiot. 😆
Rashidah (guest)
+1
10 years ago (2010-11-17)
One of these days I will really like to learn how to use a pendulum.

But when communicating with spirit beings, you should make sure that you are well protected. And YES you are right. This should not be rushed.

But I thank you for warning us about these entities.

And imagine, just lastnight there was a discussion that went out of hand on a particular story where we were trying to give this same advice.

Thanks again ❤
MoonStryke (guest)
 
10 years ago (2010-11-17)
Ummmm, you have shaking hands so you won't use a planchette, but your shaking hands don't hinder your use of a pendulum? Sorry, but that just doesn't make any sense.
I won't even bother to ask how the rest of your family took the idea of moving to another planet.
Chetyre (guest)
 
10 years ago (2010-11-17)
Well...for awhile I was pretty angry with myself for being so stupid and naive as well as being angry with those who actively deceived me but as time went by the anger subsided.

This is one thing I really detest about spirituality in general is this idea that when one dies then they (the soul) emerges as this wonderful, smiling entity full of love and glowy-happiness.

However at the time we also lived in Missouri in a trashy little town that was about 15 miles from the Whiteman Airforce base and the whole area is riddled with radar towers of various sorts; the town itself was surrounded with oodles of cell phone towers too because the town lay in a sort of depression.

I cannot help but wonder if this too had an effect on our minds; don't misunderstand, I am not trying to lay blame but from what I had read, all these microwave frequencies can have a rather...counter-productive effect on people.

I do not necessarily think that all spirits that mull around are bad, some just hang around 'cause they are in no rush for anything but many of these "things" can easily lie and claim to be spirits of "the highest light". (whatever that means)

I have been very soured by the incident and have shut myself off from everything, I even view my "intuition" with massive amounts of skepticism and have learned to never trust it nor any of my feelings or thoughts.

It takes a lot more time to heal than one thinks... You don't just shrug it off and say "oh well" because the scars go far deeper than that; it is for this reason that I am skeptical of so-called guardians and guides.

They can speak as sweetly to you as a abuser speaks to his mate then when you're not looking...WHAMMO! You get it straight in the gut.
AnneV (4 stories) (1051 posts) mod
 
10 years ago (2010-11-17)
Good advice.

All the rapists, child molesters, con men, liars, thieves, murderers and other negative base humans are going to die. And every one of them is going to end up in the astral. This doesn't even touch on the millions of those types who have already passed on. So it's pretty clear that we can run into these beings (even non human ones) when doing divination of any kind. In fact, most of what we get when we do things like the Ouija board is negative. This is because they are the closest to this vibrational plane. Beings of a higher nature would also generally not interfere with our free will. We should be no less careful in this regard than we are in the physical. We should also beware of any 'easy outs' in life.

It's good to see you're not beating yourself up for going down the path of belief with this thing. There are plenty of us who want the hell of this planet and would probably take the chance, if given, to leave, especially if it was without pain.

Thanks for sharing.
Anne

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