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The Good And The Bad And Both Are Females, Who Are They?


I'm 25 years old and I have spent the last several years without having a really good sleep. I'm not sure why, but since I was a kid when I went to sleep I always know that I'm currently in a sleep state, and in my dreams I always realize that I was actually having a dream. That knowledge gave me the power to control my dreams as I wish, everything works perfectly fine until the good and the bad who are both females kicks in.

To think about it always give me the chills, because I cannot tell if I'm still asleep or awake.

The good

She's a young adult around or in the middle of 20's, she's not pretty or beautiful, but very attractive. She's not westerner and not Asian in feature and she has black hair and tattooed neck.

First appeared on my twelfth birthday in the middle of the day, she was staring at me through the left side window of our house, wearing long white dress, then she smiled and disappeared before I could asked who are you and what are you doing here, and this is not a dream because my father and my little sister saw her too. After that day she keep reappearing in my dreams telling me that she is related to me or something I'm not so sure, and every time she came into my dream I can't control my dream, and sometimes even if I force myself to wake up, I always found her to be sitting next to my foot. At first I was so scared that I cannot sleep without my mother laying beside me. When she's in my dreams, the dream will constantly change background every time she started to talk. I really can't understand her language, she was just mumbling for all I can hear, but I know the reason why the background always changed, because she was trying to avoid the bad, and when the bad arrived she will be nowhere to be found

The bad

She has no face, and I could have sworn that her hand is 2 meters long at least, whenever I stand next to hear I can only feel fear and like there's tomorrow. This is fascinating yet scary, because every time she slip in my dreams we always had fight, punching and kicking, she fights really good, I have never win against her, and I always decided to run away tired and exhausted by forcing myself to wake up, but compare to the good she can speak, and she always told me that I can never run away, well she is right after all, even after I woke up just like the good, she is always there for me waiting while holding my wrist trying to drag me back to sleep, once when I'm still a seminarian, I cried for help by shouting as loud as I can and I did it!, I woke the entire 396 seminarian up that night. The Rector of the seminary was the first person who enter the room, and the only person who have asked me, who is that women, why is she here?!, and what have you done?. The rector was the only person who saw "the bad" that night, and what about my two other roommates?, they see nothing but they sense extreme chill and fear sensation and they were scared to hell not by my voice but by the sensation of fear they felt.

There are several people who witnessed their presence, including my family member, my mother, my father, my little sister, my cousins ito and alfons, and some of my friends, they were all stunned, scared or runaway away in panic. Mostly happened in the middle of the night when they were awaken by a loud woom-woom noise, like a noise of a neon lamp only louder.

I have no idea who is these two presence, but as long as they keep coming, I can't never have a good sleep with a nice controlled dreams.

And I would like to know what are they?, because I'm sure that I'm not crazy because there are several people have seen both them.

PS: usually after their visits weird things happened, noises, I develop sense of feeling to the extreme heights and etc.

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jo_han (2 stories) (6 posts)
9 years ago (2012-03-11)
at agstorm, that is not the patterns,here's what I can remember, but I'm not sure if the strokes was right in other words this is not accurate, but I've tried my best to draw it.
Agstorms (183 posts)
9 years ago (2012-03-10)
[at] Jo_Han look up the "flower of life" on google images, is that the pattern of the tattoo?
jo_han (2 stories) (6 posts)
9 years ago (2012-03-09)
thank you so much,you've been a great help, I will update this story as soon I experience it again,i'm new in this site, and accidentally found this place when I was doing some research about what is happening to me... And I guess I'm not in the wrong place after all.
Ravenula (3 stories) (115 posts)
9 years ago (2012-03-09)
About the Dreams: Usually the "bad dreams" that carry the message (of the fighting) would stop once the message is deciphered and the Guide (s) are satisfied you got the message. 😁 BE AT PEACE while realizing your Spirit's greater purpose in life!
Ravenula (3 stories) (115 posts)
9 years ago (2012-03-09)
The Spirits are finally smiling, you are protected and a Light bulb just went on.

You know all the answers already, you just mustn't be afraid to see it! ❤ 😁

Guardians usually make people's paths collide, so that the one charge be a messenger to another. I am greatful to have briefly met you and your Divine Team behind you... As much therapy this conversation was for you, it was for me as well. My Guide sent me here to you, and yours sent you to me for just this moment, to educate each other. Amazing! Thanks, and you are right on about the Bridge Carrier!

PS: don't be afraid it will block the flow, know you are protected by Light and be at peace, and this will make things come to you naturally as the answers would keep coming!
jo_han (2 stories) (6 posts)
9 years ago (2012-03-09)
dear ravenula, now I am scared, and confused after reading your response, especially about the fights, it took me a while to think about my reply to you, ok so I will not going to fight back but then instead I'm just going stand there and keep ask her why?, after some consideration I will try your suggestion of holding back and try to listen.
There are so many details about this story actually, but I can't find the words to describe, and honestly I'm terrified with the word "carrier",could it be something like I'm some kind of a brigde between worlds or what?, because sometimes I hear voices like "he is lying" when somebody is not telling truth, or being sick when somebody near me currently have a bad mood, and your idea about the device frighten me seriously, since the mechanical thing that I have the urge to build is actually some kind of a "being" rather than mechanical stuff, because it's a living thing that transports things,goods/stuff/people as far as I can remember, and it is not a's so complicated, and impossible to do, that makes me think it is not possible and I just do not know where to start.
Ravenula (3 stories) (115 posts)
9 years ago (2012-03-09)
I have to add, you are afraid when she comes at you, making you fight harder against her in turn making her fight harder to make you succumb to her... But it seems that you are one tough person to "crack"... She can't penetrate your mind if you don't allow it... If you stop fighting against it you could be a great tool in service of the Divine! In allowing the Divine in you can Heal and heal others.

I understand how you feel, sometimes we don't want Divine healing in the sense we don't want to improve or change because we just got so used to being in the dumps the whole time going with the lower frequencies of the mundane existence, not seeing any magic... But to be stuck in such a rut is to hide your Light from the world... We are here to make a difference, not only in the lives of others but in our own as well... And we just can't evolve if we are afraid of our own Light.
Ravenula (3 stories) (115 posts)
9 years ago (2012-03-09)
The words "kah rur or ka oor" sounds like "carrier"... Are you a carrier of something, maybe her or spirits? Or a divine messenger through her? The things she does to you, to tell to the world to educate others!? Carrier of spirit voice... That sounds like some mechanical device, or just a device to send out Divine signals... You are the device and tool, the tape recorder of the Divine's voice and you have to replay what you heard or taped to others to help them on their spiritual paths.

As for the tattoo well Straight lines are symbolic of the masculine yang polarity, curves of the feminine ying polarity and together they are the triangle symbol - the holy trinity, symbolic of the Holy Spirit... Thus Divine language, she could be a carrier of the Holy Spirit's wisdom imparted to you as a second carrier, working in unison to get the messages out there.

As for the fighting again, you misunderstood me, it only appears that she is coming at you but you are actually the one fighting her - remember dream language is sometimes in reverse... But she could come after you, but not to kill you but to "defeat you" to make you surrender to her, to "hear her out" she wants you to listen to her and the more you fight it the harder she "fights back" to try and make you succumb to her.

Why is she angry? Are you angry at her for coming at you with this huge responsibility of Divine messages being relayed and to be told to the world? Maybe you don't want it... But you do however go to her asking her why she is mad at you... Your answer is right before you. I don't think she is mad, I think she is exhausted trying to make you see things, your resistance makes her fight so hard to make a break through to you.
jo_han (2 stories) (6 posts)
9 years ago (2012-03-09)
thank you for your response, and yes you are right I was afraid at first, but later I got used to hang out with the good, usually I'm charge with my dreams but when she's around, she took me to several places I did not recognize, and sometimes she let me play around with those places like changing the sky color and the others, but I notice that those places have the same characteristics, such as the trees with large leafs and wood patterned like dalmatian dogs, which I can not change.

I've tried to ask the good what do you want from me, but all I got is just a smile, and soft pats on my head, and her tattoos,i've tried to draw it, but it seems that I can not remember the patterns, but in my head I know how exactly it look like, weird huh?. The pattern start from both side of the neck, to her shoulders and to her back, left and right, the pattern consist of straight lines,curves,and triangles,it's not tribal pattern I know, because it's too weird.

And when the bad is about to appear, usually I can see that the good is troubled, her face is changing and she look so worried, and she will start to change background and places, about the fights I never start it, the bad always start it first, she start to chase me first and then I will try to talk to, her ask her why and I'm sorry if I've done something bad to her, but she will not stop she'll charge at me in a full speed, slam me to ground, choke me and so on, and I knew that if I'm don't make a stand I could have died.

And it seems that the bad can only attack me in full force inside my dreams, that is why she always try to drag back to sleep in order to get back to the dream.

You mention it "mission",and now I remember, sometimes I got this flash on my head, that I have this urge to build something mechanical I don't know what it is, and I think I might be imagining things.

And I'm very interested when you mention angels, I never thought that "the good" might an angel, next time I'm going to ask her if she is an angel or not, the only problem is her language, I remember some words though,"kah oor" or maybe it's "kagh rur" I'm not sure, but that's the word she often use when she's about to change the place and background.

And if the bad really is a demon then I'm screwed...
Ravenula (3 stories) (115 posts)
9 years ago (2012-03-09)
At first I thought that the one was an Angel (the good) and the other one a demon (the bad)... I thought that the more you indulge in negative thoughts the more power you give to the "demon" so that the Angel can't have control over the demon, since you choose darkness over Light the whole time; and in order to give power to the Angel to "get rid of" the "demon" you need to embrace the Light, go over to the Light side, having Faith in the Light and not to doubt it choosing darkness instead.

But then I thought that this woman or entity is the Same person... Your fear of the "good" or the Angel makes her appear to you without a Face, signifying that you do not want to acknowledge her... Now if you don't want to acknowledge the Angel, living in Fear of her she will become something Bad and negative in your Life. Could you madden the Angel because you refuse to acknowledge her, making her turn bad?! Angels that are given a charge always have a job to do and when their charges don't comply they can get irritable... Maybe you have a destiny or mission to fulfill with your Spirit sight and a Guide to help you, a spiritual path that will benefit not only yourself but others as well, and your Fear and lack of willingness to let her in to fulfill her purpose with you is stalling this entire process - she can't help you and you can't help others because of your FEAR... Angels always run on a tight schedule, if one charge is stalling Divine intervention another's spiritual path may be compromised due to the fact that you cannot reach out to others spiritually!

Holding your wrist trying to drag you back to sleep, why would she do that? To fight with you some more? Guides will use dreams to stipulate the main problem in your Life that needs fixing if they cannot reach you on a conscious level... The dream world is all Angels' playground.

No I don't think she wants to Fight you, you are the one that is Fighting her and in order to fight back she has to say: "But you can never win, you can never run away!" To say "stop fighting me, it is useless! Surrender and just give in to my will!"... I don't think she wants to kill you, she wants to Guide you, but because you don't understand her purpose with you you act out of fear calling for "help" thinking she's going to kill you... Now if she was really a malicious Spirit she would have killed you long ago... Think about it, why would she let you live?

I personally think that you have a Spirit that watches over you, but that this Spirit is frustrated because she is horribly misunderstood as you said in the dream when the background SHE CHANGES (and not another spirit) changes and you can't make out what she is saying implying you either don't want to hear what she has to say or you are too frightened to find out. To really understand her you should approach her with Love and compassion, that is all she wants for now, and until then you won't feel her Love and compassion in return.

Tattoos...maybe she has Your name tattooed on her neck... You are indeed tied to her as she is to you... Any tattoo is a personal statement of identity - what does the tattoo look like, it could be the insignia of Divine angelic rank, as in what side she is on, or what she fights for, and what's her soul purpose... Now if she has your name on her neck or God's you would be a very fortunate soul having Divine protection like that is always a blessing.

So calm down and you should ask her KINDLY "what do you want from me?" And she will show you... Stop running and maybe you'll find a rich treasure of goodness in that which you initially feared!

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