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The Differences Between Lucid Dreaming And Astral Projection


Thought I'd post an article up here to hopefully get a bit of discussion going about Lucid Dreaming and Astral Projection. Apologies if this has been done before or even done to death, just am interested in hearing the opinions and experiences of the people on this site who are much more experienced and better versed than myself.

I've been reading a lot of stuff recently where people are of the opinion that a lucid dream and an astral projection are very similar apart from the fact that in a lucid dream, you are unaware of the separation from your body, you have just become aware in the dream state (but actually in the 2nd body state) that your body is asleep and can start to manipulate what's going on. But it's 2 methods of getting to the same place.

Had these lucid dreams at the weekend, slept from 9am to 12pm pretty much on and off lucid dreaming, I can stay in the lucid state for a while now (well since the days of getting excited and waking up after a minute), I reckon for around 15 to 30 minutes clearly conscious of what's going on. So at the weekend there I kept dreaming that I was entering what looked like a store in my home town (where I no longer live - I'm not even in that country) and when inside, everyone stopped and stared at me when I walked in, like I shouldn't be there. In my mind I knew I couldn't be back in Scotland so I became aware I was dreaming - this was a consistent entry point to the lucid state all morning. I just kind of floated about the store then out of the front door which led to an area that was to my mind was supposed to be my current location (Melbourne, Australia) but looked completely different. Anyway, I had accepted it was in Australia and started flying, flew over a bridge and over the river, which looked completely different but again I accepted that it was the river I see daily in the physical.

Anyway I couldn't fly properly and kept going up a bit and then crashing down again so I decided to go under the water and I just dived under and started breathing under the water, was weird. I just was under water breathing normally because I knew I could, looking at the floor of the river.

I'm starting to think now (and I am sure loads of people have had this experience) - you know when you dream of a place and when you wake up, you think you were supposed to be in a place that is familiar to you? But somehow it's different?

Like, in your dream you think you are in a city or in your home, but when you wake up you realize the place you were in was actually completely different to that city or your home?

Well, I now think you're in a completely different place altogether but this is your brains way of making some sense of the situation and trying to rationalize it. Apologize if I'm stating the obvious to some of you but I find it good to unload what's been going on in my mind and I find this site a really good place to do it.

I was also wondering, do you think when you come across an entity in the Lucid Dream state that you are familiar with or you actually think you know, this is actually a completely different entity but your mind is trying to make sense of the situation and fooling you into thinking you are talking to someone you know? Because when you wake up, you realize this person was not who you know after all. Sometimes your mind/awareness actually changes who the person is, even though you are fully aware you are dreaming.

Apologies for going on a bit, I know a lot of you won't be interested in hearing about others' experiences but another part of the lucid dream experience at the weekend I remember being in a place, in a room and asking for answers (in my mind this was my bedroom - I am unsure), in my lucid state I became aware of the vibrations and visualized lying down and trying to leave my body. Then I was talking with or hearing a male and female voice, I can't recall faces, but they were discussing me, I can't remember if it was to me directly or about me. But I remember the man or woman saying something like, "You (or he if they were talking about me and not to me) will be properly traveling soon". Then the male voice laughed and said, "Well yes, if you (he) last (s) that long, ha-ha-ha-ha". It wasn't an evil laugh, more just like he was trying to be humorous. I didn't find the experience scary and I'm not really scared by it - although I guess he could have been talking about many things, death included. My perspective in a few months has completely changed so this kind of thing doesn't really bother me any more.

Anyway, I'm interested on hearing your opinions on Lucid Dreaming and Astral Travel and their differences, if you can be bothered posting!

Also, feel free to post up your own Lucid Dream experiences - I love reading about other peoples experiences also.

Thanks for reading.


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epoy1984 (14 stories) (644 posts)
11 years ago (2010-12-09)
I had a story about astral projection please read it if you have time thanks
Rashidah (guest)
11 years ago (2010-12-07)
In lucid dreaming, I see things in a watery version for some reason. They are not crystal clear as you may experience. But I am fully aware.

My spirit guide came to me. I never even realized that he was my spirit guide until years after. I initially thought that he was a demon at first.

Keep practicing though. We will get an excellent hand at this soon.
Thebigm (8 stories) (32 posts)
11 years ago (2010-12-07)
I haven't noticed water as such. Mine generally happen at the weekend when I'm having a lie in. In fact, if I sleep past 9:30-10am it's almost guaranteed to happen.

Initially it took something to happen that was extremely abnormal for me to realise I was dreaming, after more experience and practice it just happens, I become aware straight away that where I am is not normal (compared to my waking state of consciousness).

I tried to get into this habit (okay this is going to sound 'Inception' like and lame) but I would scrunch up a bit of paper at work and throw it in the bin and try and concentrate on turning it into a paper aeroplane. Obviously this could never happen, but if in a Lucid state I start to have doubts that I may actually be awake, I do this and when I throw the scrunched up ball of paper it turns into a paper aeroplane and confirms where I am.

The one thing I've noticed about the state is that everything is a lot clearer, colours and sounds and the experience in general maybe even feels more real than normal waking consciousness.

Can I ask, how did you first get in touch with your spirit guide?

The next time I am in a lucid dream state I am going to make a conscious effort to try and ask questions of my subconscious and see what happens, although any attempts at this previously have just led to a situation where at the time it makes sense, but when I wake up, it makes no sense!
Rashidah (guest)
11 years ago (2010-12-07)
You seem to handle yourself quite well with astral projection.

I will tell you something. This case might be different for me. I usually can tell when I am lucid dreaming by seeing water. Every time I experience lucid dreaming, there is always water around.

I do not know if I am the only person that notices that.
Thebigm (8 stories) (32 posts)
11 years ago (2010-12-07)
Hi Rashida, have you consciously Astral Projected as well as Lucid Dreamed?

If so, what did you find the main differences are?

Whilst Lucid Dreaming, I find it's very easy to slip back into the dream state (without waking up first), I guess that comes with practice.

Like, you're in control doing whatever you want, then a few seconds later you're caught up in some strange dream scenario before you regain consciousness within the dream again.

It's all really interesting and exciting stuff.
Rashidah (guest)
11 years ago (2010-12-07)
I thank you for sharing your information. Lucid dreams are astral conscious states. It is sort of like in-between. You think that you are dreaming but your awareness is very high in that state. Too high to just pass it off as just a dream.

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