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Coping With The Fear Of Astral Travel

 

I'm fairly new here (3rd story), have posted a couple of times about general experiences but I am looking specifically for advice from experienced Astral travelers about how they overcame their early anticipations and fears to be able to astral travel.

Quick background on me:

29 year old guy, started noticing infrequent lucid dreams about 5 years ago. Started experiencing sleep paralysis about 3 years ago.

Lucid dreaming I really enjoyed but could never stay in for long initially, through time I am able to hold it longer and do more.

Sleep Paralysis - first started noticing this as a strong vibration and feeling like I was being pulled/forced out of my body, I have always fought this due to fear until recently researching online I stumbled across Robert Monroe and bought his book Journey's Out Of The Body. His early experiences, paralysis and vibrations are very similar to what's happening to me.

I have 2 main fears/issues:

Now, where I'm at now is, sometimes I can go with the vibrations, but more often than not, I get a very serious fear feeling and it very quickly becomes an extremely negative experience I can't go with. I have not as of yet managed to fully separate (to my knowledge) although I have had lucid dreams which could have been a full separation and not just a dream - but I wasn't conscious of it until I woke up.

Be it, negative/scary voices or negative/scary looking images, I always end up having to fight it and wakening up. I think this is because I need to try and get myself in a more positive frame of mind generally, before I attempt to take it further. But is this normal? Can anyone help with anything they have done to overcome the fear?

I have a very active imagination and controlling my mind is difficult, it wanders, so wandering into some negative or fearful thought could happen easily.

The other issue is, after the experience. Whether good or bad, I feel disconnected from the physical reality and almost like I have to fight hard to keep calm and keep my sanity, like I'm right on the edge. Like something that is happening in these experiences is completely contradicting everything I have come to know about life so far and have been taught. This is extremely disconcerting.

I guess what I am looking for is affirmation that other people have went through this as well and have got past it and are still happy (maybe happier?) and sane!

Apologies as this is rather long winded, but I'd be interested in hearing about good and negative experiences and how you over came them.

Thanks!

Andy.

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Thebigm (8 stories) (32 posts)
 
10 years ago (2010-12-07)
Old Soul - check out this article from Anne's website:

Http://www.astralvoyage.com/projection/difference.html

If you're in the 2nd state / OBE / Lucid Dream / Astral projecting whatever term you use to identify it, the subconscious can move you place pretty quickly if, like me, you haven't learned to control it.

I can relate to what you're saying, I've actually just posted up a story which is pending moderation about visiting places in the Lucid Dream state and then realising they weren't what they seemed.
oldsoul64 (2 stories) (5 posts)
 
10 years ago (2010-12-06)
Hello, I'm pretty new here too. I've had a couple of experiences with travel but there was nothing beyond actually being there all of a sudden, say if I was meditating. I'm not even sure if I'm talking about what everyone else is. One time I was meditating or praying and I was to go to Las Vegas for a work convention a week later. Suddenly there was light and then I was in the Nevada dessert, not the city. When I was younger I used to meditate pretty regularly and loved to fly over the landscape which I sort of made up as I went. Anyone else relate?
Thebigm (8 stories) (32 posts)
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10 years ago (2010-11-16)
Also wanted to post up in the one lucid state I have had recently, I went to bed and tried to just think positive (thanks to a lot of the help on here) and just send out a feeling of love and feel happy.

About 2:30am (I woke up shortly after), I became conscious and I felt what was like 2 really strong explosions next to me accompanied by bright flashes. Then I felt as if I was floating (still within or very close to the body - couldn't tell the difference) on top of bubbling warm water (strange!). Anyway, it was a nice experience, I didn't feel fear at all, I used one of the methods in Monroe's book about trying to clasp my hands together above my body and I did it and also looked down at the same time (eyes still shut by the way so with my awareness) and could see my arms were still beside my body on the bed. Anyway, that was quite overwhelming and I woke up shortly after... But hey, I'm making baby steps but at least it's progress.

Thanks to everyone on this site.

I really wonder what people did when they were having these experiences before you had online communities like these to confirm that you're not alone with these experiences.

Also - what is amazing is that the more you get into this, you are literally drawn to people that have similar mindsets or experiences.

Anyway - wish you all the best for now, best do some work!

Thanks again.
Thebigm (8 stories) (32 posts)
 
10 years ago (2010-11-16)
Hey, thanks so much to everyone for all the great advice, apologies for the delay in getting back on here to say this, had PC issues!

Anne - I've bookmarked this story now so that I can come back and read your (and others) advice again - I have done a lot of reading on your Astral travel site which I think is fantastic. I've picked up his other 2 books and will be reading them as soon as this one is finished! Am progressing with this, I generally find my frame of mind has been better lately, but busy at work meaning late nights and early starts has meant that the state where I can keep my mind awake has been a rarity of late.

I'm in Melbourne and agree, it's a wonderful city - I'm actually from Scotland originially.

Titan -:) I'll keep trying

Rashida - Pleasure as always:)

Govinda - Thanks so much for providing your experiences also - it's really supportive hearing these stories from everyone else. Sounds like our experiences were extremely similar and I've taken your advice and started to do daily affirmations, every time I think about it and it's definitely helping. Also thanks for your nice words.

Geena - I will definitely try this, I have been trying a few different meditation techniques to calm the mind but I often end up staying up too late and doing them at the wrong time, I need to introduce some rigour around a meditation routine so I'm doing it at quality time.

There is a mind body and soul exhibition on in Melbourne this weekend that I'm going to go along to, I think speaking to Clairvoyant's and Mediums about these experiences could help me. I'd also like to get a proper reading done. If I'm honest, I was really sceptical about the whole thing, well, until these things started happening to me directly.

Ah well, 'less ye see miracles ye will not believe'.
Geena_PsychicStudent (7 posts)
 
10 years ago (2010-11-15)
Hi Andy,

I have an overactive imagination as well, one of the things that helps is paying attention to your thoughts during the day and trying to keep them focused in the moment. If you daydream a lot your mind gets used to flying off, day or night. If let your mind go to scary places during the day, they will also pop up at night (so don't watch scary movies before going to bed, or violent tv shows).

One of my teachers suggested that we try to go about our daily activities completely grounded in the moment. It can be pretty tough at first and your mind will wander naturally. I try to go through 10-15 minutes at a time completely focused, and if a distracting idea comes through I dismiss it. What surprised me the most was how much goes on around you everyday, you notice it a lot more. The same goes for astral matter at night (and other astral beings).

If all else fails, there are plenty of clairoyant meditations that will also take you to other dimensions. These also let you talk to spirit guides, fly, etc, but you don't need to struggle against waking up.

Hope this helps!

Geena
CelestialJaden (39 posts)
 
10 years ago (2010-11-14)
I Astral Travel when I sleep naturally, so I've never had any fear of it. But my mind used to wander all of the time and I tempered that, as well as a lot of other things, through meditation. It worked great for me and I highly recommend it.
Rashidah (guest)
 
10 years ago (2010-11-12)
Govinda welcome to the site.

I believe that your hallucinations are real. At times when being on the astral plane, you will encounter all sorts of entities. They maybe good or evil.

You can sense them. That is how you will know deceptive beings from the genuine ones.

When I encounter the dangerous ones, I envision a great white light encircling all around me for protection.

But you have to understand that EVERYONE are spiritual beings 😐

I am glad that you are excited over your experiences. Your post was an excellent read.
Govinda (1 stories) (17 posts)
 
10 years ago (2010-11-12)
It is when your spiritual body separates from your physical body. A quick google search or wikipedia should provide an overview.
ddsmithj (1 stories) (25 posts)
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10 years ago (2010-11-12)
I don't know what exactly astro travaling is? Some one tell me?
Govinda (1 stories) (17 posts)
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10 years ago (2010-11-12)
I created an account so that I could comment, because your post has moved me. In the past two years, I have began to experience sleep paralysis. I don't know why all of a sudden I have began to develop this but it is something I have learned to deal with and become excited about. Two months ago, as I was falling asleep my body was wracked with intense vibrations, an entire body humming, and I could hear this loud sound, I thought it was a train but realized in no way could a train be making a noise that loud and imminent. I had a feeling of "impending doom" and after it was over I was FREAKED. I am getting vibrations still but without the sound. Also - during my sleep paralysis I occasionally hallucinated. That a demon or some "evil" was coming for me, or I would get scared that there was something in the corner of the room that I could not see, because I can't move my neck during these episodes and my vision is impaired. Anyway, I joined a website very similar to this one and basically asked "wtf is happening to me, can anyone make this stop?"

I realize now that there is no need to make it stop. I am now trying to cultivate the vibrations into astral travel. Be validated - you are not alone. I went to a psychologist about it and even he did not know what to tell me. It is a strange side of the world that many are unfamiliar with. And a beginner will be bumbling along, feeling their way through the dark to get acquainted with it. You are not going crazy. But I would recommend harnessing your mind. If you feel like you are losing your sanity, then you need to get control. Learn some basic mediation techniques and practice them. This is the best thing I have ever done. I like to put on some Wah or some kind of devotional chant music, light some comforting incense on my charcoal blocks and go for as long as I can.

I also said the affirmation, "I am a spiritual being who can separate from my body and return safely" at least thirty times a day for about a week and it actually helped. When I started to feel fear after or before the vibrations, I visualized a gold circle, a powerful ring, bright with warm light, and hold it in my mind. Then I picture it enveloping me, then my apartment, and I know that nothing negative can enter that space, or enter me, and I feel safe. I visualize this circle still often now, is empowers me mentally.

I no longer have any negativity or haunting feelings during sleep paralysis. I know that I am safe. Yes it is scary, yes it is weird, but remember you are safe. Feel it out and go with the flow and you may enjoy it. The vibrations are doing well too. I no longer have an intense fear or dread for them and can control them with ease. Actually, one night I came home after far too much wine and flopped down on my bed, and when I felt them coming on I irritably batted them aside like a pesty cat.

Okay this is long so farewell for now. All the best in the universe, Andy, may you light the lamp of love within your heart, and always remember who you are. Meditate and melt into the ocean of bliss, and may all your dreams come true. Happy travelling. ❤

P.S: Great advice AnneV - thank you, I am going to check out your website!
Rashidah (guest)
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10 years ago (2010-11-12)
I have not been on this site for awhile due to my studies. But it is always nice to read these mature stories from a poster like you.

Fear is always a factor when venturing into new territories.

Although I have been astral traveling, sometimes the sudden jerk before going on O.B.Es still do get me a little worried.

The more you do it, the more comfortable you will feel for the experiences.

PLEASE TRY TO PUSH PASS THE NEGATIVE FEELINGS. DO NOT LET THEM HOLD YOU BACK ❤

Happy Travels 😁
TheTitan (2 posts)
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10 years ago (2010-11-11)
Hi I'm Titan I'm 18 and started getting this from when I was a child but I did some research and found out what it was. With my personal experience I see flashes of images and loud crazy noises but just don't be scared just go through all of it and relax here the noises but just relax then at the height of its noise it will go quiet you have nothing to fear be a man takeon the challeng like me the more you relax the quicker it quiets down and you project you must relax during this state and know that nothing can hurt you as long as your bodys in a safe place like your bedroom at home

This will help 😉
AnneV (4 stories) (1048 posts) mod
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10 years ago (2010-11-11)
Hi Andy,

I've been astral projecting for decades and I too started with Robert Monroe's books as well as his hemi-synch tapes (he has two more books as an fyi). Long before this webpage, I created one about 12 or so years ago all about astral projection (www.astralvoyage.com).

First, everything you are going through is very normal! I got to where I was projecting (consciously) about five times a week. And yes, over and over gibberish, screaming, poking, and other unpleasant things were around. Like you, it thwarted my endeavors continually. I finally got so sick of being controlled by my fear, I just said, "Well, let's see what happens if I don't do anything but observe." So they'd go on in their typical way and then... Nothing. So wow, I realized that in the end, I was just fine. I also realized that when you first start to project, you're in the etheric plane. This is the very next plane next to the physical. And the physical is very dense, so this is a tiny fraction up in the vibration ladder and the 'things here' are not what I'd call enlightened. But you are! As soon as you get away from your body, preferably out of your house, your vibrations naturally raise out of the etheric. You are then in the astral (freedom!). You also should get away from your body anyway because it will naturally want to pull you back. As soon as I get those horrendous vibrations, I stick out my astral arms and reach for my bed post and pull like heck. Then I immediately take off. You'll first use the mental crutch of thinking you need to leave via a door, but soon you'll just exist through the ceiling.

So I treat the etheric like a really stinky room. I hold my nose (or really, my 'fear') and get the heck out of my room. Once you get the hang of it, you're out of there in seconds and all that stuff fades. But no matter what I write, you're going to feel what you feel until you move past that. Words don't eradicate this. It takes actually applying this and these fears will not be resolved over night. I can tell you all day long how jumping out of a plane feels but experience is the ultimate teacher. But at least you know that you can move beyond this state.

I have to laugh at the 'calmness and sanity' comment. I hate to break this to you, but this "world" we live in is pretty much ignorant and on some levels, insane. When I project, it is only on the very rarest of occasion that I meet anyone with any kind of lucidity (and they are usually Asian). The sleeping masses huddle around their sleeping forms and dream their second life with no knowledge of what they really are. This dense plane we live in is a school ground and most take multiple lifetimes to get out of first grade. I've tried over and over to either take friends or loved ones on my travels but their consciousness wasn't there. Don't wait for those around you to evolve to your point. You'll be waiting a long time. What matters is that you're open minded and making the brave journey into what for you is the unknown. As far as what awaits, well, the most amazing things. Time travel, higher planes, meeting masters, activating chakras well outside of the normal seven, and so on.

You are always free to send me e-mail at eclecticraven - at - yahoo (dot) com.

Anne
P.s. I visited Australia a few years back, (Melbourne) and I just loved it. I also loved the wine region in the Yarra Valley. You're very lucky to live there.

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