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Astral Projection, Lucid Dreaming And Normal Dreaming


Good afternoon,

I haven't posted in a while, been working a lot on learning how to Astral project and get lucid in dreams more easily.

As the weekend just past I went lucid in a dream and did my usual interacting with the other entities in that state when all of a sudden my housemate entered from across the room.

We had a chat, and at this point I must have lost some lucidity, I was asking him if he was aware he was in a dream state and he said no, so in the dream I frightened him to wake up and attempted to wake myself up. Which happened, kind of. What happened was, I thought I had awoken but I hadn't, so I am no longer lucid and we are having a chat about the profundity of what just happened.

Occasionally whilst lucid dreaming or astral projecting I run into someone I know during my waking consciousness who is not asleep at the same time as me (as I am located in a different time zone from most of my family and lifelong friends). So for another example, I am lucid dreaming and walking in a park and experiencing the surroundings, feeling the grass on my bare feet and just looking around smiling and feeling ecstatic at being in this state, then I will run into my mother (who would be awake in the UK at the time I am asleep as I am in Australia). Does this mean that I am not really lucid dreaming at all? I am wondering from the more experienced 'travelers' here what this means? Am I in a different state of consciousness and not actually astral travelling at all?

I know I have a lot of work to do on myself, I still find it hard to maintain true lucidity for more than a few minutes but I'd appreciate anyone's advice/opinions as this is confusing me.



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Sisyphus_Of_Comprehension (2 stories) (69 posts)
12 years ago (2011-12-23)
I find it somewhat odd that I've come into periods of lucidity where I'm actually finding total control, but I never leave my dream world. I still have a lot of blocks that need unblocking... You, however, seem on the right track. Next time you find yourself lucid, just escape wherever you are and leave your body! Then you can bring that ability out into the real world.
Thebigm (8 stories) (32 posts)
12 years ago (2011-12-11)
Gifted 422 - thanks also for your response.
Thanks for your account of things, I love hearing about other peoples experiences as much as I like talking about my own (which is why I love the Monroe books so much). I've found a few strange things happening at light phases of sleep, I can hear people talking to me gently as I wake up, or sometimes am sure I feel the odd prod or slight touch. This used to scare the hell out of me and it rarely does now.

Appreciate your comments on my story too, I am really appreciative of any of the beings on this site that choose to try and help with what can be a very ambiguous and difficult experience at times. I can't really offer any major advice on contacting other beings in the astral (should it be entities around our waking consciousness or those passed on) but I find if I want something badly enough in that state, it happens, it's the intensity of the control and the limitlessness that wake me up. However I am sure Anne V would be happy to help, I think any question I've posed on here she's instantly helped clarify and made me feel a lot better about the situation.
Thebigm (8 stories) (32 posts)
12 years ago (2011-12-11)
Thanks so much for the responses and sorry for taking so long to get back and say thanks, didn't have my laptop at home over the weekend.

Anne, I've had lots of false awakenings in the past, very annoying when I've gotten up, ready for work and left the house only to realise that I'm wearing something ridiculous and then realise that I'm dreaming... Waking up and having to shower and dress for the 2nd time is a pain!

Your explanation of the potential reasoning behind meeting 'known' entities in the Astral plane makes a lot of sense and it's a fantastic idea to try and gleam a level of information I could never have possibly known, I'm going to try and imprint that on my mind for my next adventure, whenever it happens.

"Clarity now is something I definitely need work with" lucidity drops in and out a lot, kind of like the experience is a movie and when I recall it's like someone's skipped forward a few scenes so what I remember is a bit disjointed and I don't recall the full movie.

Having a goal is something I do, right now though it's possibly too vague, I want to 'find out something that I can corroborate in the physical' so that I know the experience is profound. However, this gets sketchy. The other day I was 'floating in the bedroom' of a friends house I was staying at for the first time, looking for something I could verify in real life. I floated up to this shelf and looked on top at a few items that I was going to recall and look for the next day. Alas, upon awakening there was no shelf. So I instead on my next trip floated over to a park somewhere and conversed with a 'local' who seemed to have no idea what plane he was on and although friendly, treated me as if it was normal for me to be there and was not in the least but confused or threatened by my questions, which must have been strange if he was attached to that reality.
Sisyphus_Of_Comprehension (2 stories) (69 posts)
12 years ago (2011-12-10)
Reality will skip if you displace enough energy when you move, or if you are just going about your day, especially in routines. This works in the very same way as a poltergeist, only rather than taking on a unique identity made up of lesser unharmonious energies, you retain who you are at a separate point in time (even in the future). Beings with a cultivated spiritual presence often cause strange things to happen in the paradigms of other individuals. As for waking in the astral, it's about the only time I'm able to leave my dreams in a state of lucidity, but I'd really like advice on contacting other beings. 😭
gifted422 (6 posts)
12 years ago (2011-12-09)
Like Anne says, I too believe that we can project ourselves while awake. This has recently started happening to me. I've been trying to get used to projecting. (Anne, you helped me immensely with this. I previously posted under the name "gifted14," however, it didn't recognize my sign-on information so I just made a new account.)

There was an incident a couple months ago when my son was passing my room on the way to the kitchen. He apparently "saw" me fixing some lights above my bed, and called to me. Not getting an answer, he called louder, and I answered, "I'm in the kitchen!" He said he looked toward the kitchen, and then when he looked back in my room, I wasn't there. I'd been in the kitchen the whole time.

A few weeks ago, I was taking my son to his father's, and I passed a convenience store. I thought to myself, "I'm going to stop on the way back and get some tea." When I walked in, the guy behind the counter said, "Forget something?" I asked what he meant and he said, "You were just here." I said I wasn't. He said, "Yes, you were. You came in five minutes ago and left." I assured him that I had been driving for almost an hour and this was my first time in the store. He turned white.

Astral travel is hard to get used to. I was trying to do it, not realizing that I already was. And once I realized it, any time my astral body wanted to go, it scared the hell out of me. I've been making progress. I once went up into the galaxy and had the most wonderful experience ever. I long to see that again!
AnneV (4 stories) (1064 posts) mod
12 years ago (2011-12-09)

The first part sounds like a false wakening. And it's so real you swear you are awake. Well, you are awake in some regard but not completely merged with the physical.

I too have been out projecting and have run into people that were currently awake in their physical shell. My theory on that is that the astral is more complex than we imagine. I believe we can project part of our consciousness, split in a way, to this dimension even while awake. We think of our astral glued to our physical but we are most certainly multi-dimensional beings and who says it's just two dimensions? There are many layers to the astral (they say seven) and there are probably many layers to our multidimensionality. For all intensive purposes I'm sure our dimensions match those of the astral, mental and higher planes. We'd have to. So I was able to talk to these people and bring back very intimate and secretive information that only they knew, later to be confirmed, so I do not think it was imaginary. Being the author of I've had other people write to me numerous times with the same issue but they too were able to talk to the person they met and confirm information they were told.

Our lucidity is like a muscle. It's rather weak because we haven't exercised it that often in the astral. And how can we? This is not an acknowledged part of our society even in today's times so we're pretty much atrophied on many levels. Even the most famous projectors have to constantly use affirmations like "Clarity now!" in that moment or off their consciousness goes into lala land (I call this the Alice in Wonderland effect). Only through constant focusing do we stay lucid. This is why eastern religions spend their whole life trying to master this because a lifetime is what it takes. But you're ahead of the masses my friend. 99.9% of the human population don't even know what you're talking about.

As a tip, I personally like to have some type of goal for when I project. I hate to waste them on a room wandering or something like that. So I put things on my list like seeing Stonehenge, the pyramids, the moon, past or future or the real delight, a guide or the higher planes. You can also ask to see past lives and where you came from.

We all have a lot of work to do on ourselves. From the looks of it, you're doing great. Stick with this. The path is universal. You start with touring your close vicinity, chatting with friends, then leaving the outer atmosphere, other planet travel, time travel, past life investigation, healing, exploring higher planes and so on. If only our society would embrace this from the time of youth, our world would be unrecognizable in terms of development.

Thanks for stopping in.


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